Trump's 'dirty war' on media

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is a good example....

ICE detained a man while he was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital. He was taken when they stopped for gas.

"My husband needs to be here," Maria del Carmen Venegas said. "He had to wait for his son for so long, and someone just took him away."

Joel Arrona Lara, 36, was detained at a gas station in San Bernardino, California, while he and his wife were on their way to the hospital for her cesarean section. He reportedly had been living in the U.S. illegally for 12 years.

Mr. Arrona-Lara was brought to ICE’s attention due to an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges.

this prompted democrats everywhere to call for the abolition of ICE

Here is another example
KISSIMMEE, Fla. — The wife of an Iraq War veteran wiped away tears and held her young daughters as she said goodbye to her family at Orlando International Airport on Friday morning — not knowing the next time they would all be together.

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago, had pleaded publicly for President Donald Trump to stop her deportation. But a letter delivered to the White House this week by members of Congress wasn't enough to keep her with her husband, a naturalized American citizen, and their two American-born daughters.
There is an immigration policy for members of the military and their families called “parole in place” to “recognize the important sacrifices made by U.S. Armed forces members, veterans, enlistees, and their families." The Citizen and Immigration Services website says they provide “discretionary options such as parole in place or deferred action on a case-by-case basis.”

The Juarezes received a call Tuesday from their attorney saying ICE agreed to review her most recent “parole in place” application. But they have rejected her previous three applications, according to Stars and Stripes.

“I love this country. This country has given me great things because we have worked hard. But the America we are living in now is getting full of hate,” Juarez said.

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.

Now, under Trump’s immigration policy, few exceptions are made for unauthorized immigrants — even in cases when a crime has not been committed.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here is another example

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago,

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.



no doubt...

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

Alejandra Juarez, who entered the United States illegally from Mexico more than 20 years ago,

She checked in regularly with immigration authorities during former President Barack Obama’s administration, and says she was always told she is not a criminal and has nothing to worry about.



no doubt...

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

You cited a case where ICE picked someone up who was wanted on homicide charges as a Good example, perhaps of people who should not be treated as human beings.
In this case it is the wife of someone who unlike Baby Donnie Bonespurs served his chosen country, has committed no crime other than immigrating illegally, has been a productive member of our society.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You cited a case where ICE picked someone up who was wanted on homicide charges as a Good example,

perhaps of people who should not be treated as human beings.these were Spence's stupid words..


In this case it is the wife of someone who unlike Baby Donnie Bonespurs served his chosen country, has committed no crime other than immigrating illegally, has been a productive member of our society.

so?....that makes her better than any of the thousands-millions of women either currently here illegally or wanting to come here illegally?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

so?....that makes her better than any of the thousands-millions of women either currently here illegally or wanting to come here illegally?

At least as good as Trumps inlaws

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

At least as good as Trumps inlaws

were they here illegally?


so would you like this to apply to all members of the military?...if they sneak someone across the border and marry them or marry someone who is here illegally they are exempt from our immigration laws?

most of the military members that i know go out of their way to follow our laws

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Pete, what makes her more deserving than any other woman on either side of the border who either wants to come her or is already here illegally? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to come here illegally/stay here illegally...marry someone in the service(or not) or have a couple of kids on US soil? Laws for everyone don't work when everyone wants special treatment all of the time

How about for the well being of their children who are Americans? How about respect for the service of her husband?

Immigration law has never been followed to the extreme because it's impractical and at times immoral.

How about because not deporting her makes the country stronger?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

How about because not deporting her makes the country stronger?

good grief....