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08-26-2018, 01:13 PM
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We lost a good one yesterdat. RIP John McCain
Don't always agree with him, but never doubted him.
Rest Your Oar, sir ~
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08-26-2018, 01:27 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Yes we did, a true patriot and dedicated to his country, we could use more like him. Would have been interesting to travel back in time and see what might have happened with a different running mate in try number two. It’s a shame more aren’t willing to work across the isle as he was, not to mention the willingness to show respect to all his peers, regardless of the differences of opinions.
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08-26-2018, 02:48 PM
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We sure did.... RIP u earned it
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08-26-2018, 05:35 PM
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two of my favorites in the political world were Krauthammer and McCain. tough couple of months. i don’t see either being replaced, ever.
didn’t always agree with his votes, but man it was hard not to admire the guy.
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Last edited by Jim in CT; 08-26-2018 at 05:45 PM..
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08-27-2018, 07:14 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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In typical “small man” fashion, Trump nixed the staffs prepared speech intended to praise McCain for his heroism and dedication, instead issuing a short tweet. Even in his death Trump wanted nobody to upstage him, no mention of his name in the recent bill he championed and little else on his passing, there’ character for you.
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08-27-2018, 07:22 AM
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RIP - a man who dedicated his whole life to the service of our country.
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08-27-2018, 12:50 PM
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I was going to vote for him before he picked Palin. Great man.
Trumps treatment of him has been beyond reproach. Team deplorable.
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08-27-2018, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Trumps treatment of him has been beyond reproach.
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Really?
I might say reprehensible, deplorable or infantile
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08-27-2018, 01:34 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Trump has already put the flags back to full height, McCain got one full day at half mast, great way to honor a true patriot.
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08-27-2018, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I was going to vote for him before he picked Palin. Great man.
Trumps treatment of him has been beyond reproach. Team deplorable.
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No you were not ; ) . We argued this at length ; )
Trump's treatment of McCain all along has been terrible.
I have read it goes back to the 90s when Trump wanted a several hundred mil federal loan WRT HUD / Development and McCain, as part of his Congressional duties said it was a bad idea to give DT that much money for development (agree).
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump has already put the flags back to full height, McCain got one full day at half mast, great way to honor a true patriot.
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08-27-2018, 02:23 PM
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Thank You for your Service Sir
Gotta love it, JohnR starts a thread about McCain's passing and some people just couldn't NOT make it about Trump.
you know, a quick RIP, T&P's or "Thank you for your Service" would have sufficed.
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08-27-2018, 02:51 PM
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God rest his soul.
A true American who cared greatly about his country and was passionate about his beliefs. I did not always agree with him and his choices but it was good to have him voice his opinions and viewpoints
RIP
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08-27-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Thank You for your Service Sir
Gotta love it, JohnR starts a thread about McCain's passing and some people just couldn't NOT make it about Trump.
you know, a quick RIP, T&P's or "Thank you for your Service" would have sufficed.
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Sorry but it angers me that such disrespect could be shown, his sacrifice of five tortuous years in captivity and decades of service to this nation deserved so much better. Actually I’m surprised you too won’t see that as a sign of disrespect.
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08-27-2018, 04:28 PM
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Didn't always agree with him...He was an American Hero of the first degree. RIP Sir.
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08-27-2018, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Sorry but it angers me that such disrespect could be shown, his sacrifice of five tortuous years in captivity and decades of service to this nation deserved so much better. Actually I’m surprised you too won’t see that as a sign of disrespect.
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It’s actually a Trump like move. He honors American Indians and at the ceremony decides it is the right time to mock Liz Warren.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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08-27-2018, 04:54 PM
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In true Trump fashion, he ordered the flag up, Congress busts him on that, it goes down and Trump declares the flag will fly at half mast until his entournment; he saved the day again.
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08-27-2018, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
In true Trump fashion, he ordered the flag up, Congress busts him on that, it goes down and Trump declares the flag will fly at half mast until his entournment; he saved the day again.
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It's interesting to see how many people embrace McCain, now that he can be used as a club against Trump. Wasn't that long ago, that the same people (Obama and the media) defending him today, were calling him a senile old racist. I'm not especially interested in what Trump or Obama or the New York Times has to say about a man they loved to kick around when it suited them.
I'm sure it was a celebration up there when McCain was welcomed home. When I think of him the last few days, I keep thinking of an Irish blessing often said for people who spent their lives serving others.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May forever the wind be at your back,
The sun shine warmly upon your face,
The rains fall gently upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of his hands.
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08-27-2018, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It's interesting to see how many people embrace McCain, now that he can be used as a club against Trump. Wasn't that long ago, that the same people (Obama and the media) defending him today, were calling him a senile old racist. I'm not especially interested in what Trump or Obama or the New York Times has to say about a man they loved to kick around when it suited them.
I'm sure it was a celebration up there when McCain was welcomed home. When I think of him the last few days, I keep thinking of an Irish blessing often said for people who spent their lives serving others.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May forever the wind be at your back,
The sun shine warmly upon your face,
The rains fall gently upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of his hands.
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Can you please show us the quote where Obama called him racist and senile?
Obama is speaking at his funeral, per reports I read at McCain’s choosing.
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-27-2018, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Can you please show us the quote where Obama called him racist and senile?
Obama is speaking at his funeral, per reports I read at McCain’s choosing.
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the media called him too old to be taken seriously for the job, many times. obama
told a rally that mccain was going make people afraid of the fact that obama had a funny name, didn’t look like everybody else, and was black.
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08-27-2018, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Can you please show us the quote where Obama called him racist and senile?
Obama is speaking at his funeral, per reports I read at McCain’s choosing.
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08-27-2018, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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Did you post the wrong link?
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08-28-2018, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Actually I’m surprised you too won’t see that as a sign of disrespect.
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Never said that, never even inferred it.
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08-28-2018, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Did you post the wrong link?
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"They're going to try and make you afraid of me....did I mention that he's black?"
No I posted the right link. Did you, as usual, take off your thinking cap, and put on your tin foil cap, when you watched it?
Yes, you did.
You tell me what point Obama was trying to make. And you can google 100 articles of media making an issue of McCain's age, folks who I'll bet year's pay won't say the same thing if Biden runs again.
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08-28-2018, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It's interesting to see how many people embrace McCain, now that he can be used as a club against Trump. Wasn't that long ago, that the same people (Obama and the media) defending him today, were calling him a senile old racist. I'm not especially interested in what Trump or Obama or the New York Times has to say about a man they loved to kick around when it suited them.
I'm sure it was a celebration up there when McCain was welcomed home. When I think of him the last few days, I keep thinking of an Irish blessing often said for people who spent their lives serving others.
May the road rise up to meet you.
May forever the wind be at your back,
The sun shine warmly upon your face,
The rains fall gently upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of his hands.
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Yes - McCain is gonna kill us all, War Monger, We're all gonna Die, he is a rascist. Bet they'll say how honest Romney was and a guiding light and all that when it is his turn.
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08-28-2018, 06:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"They're going to try and make you afraid of me....did I mention that he's black?"
No I posted the right link. Did you, as usual, take off your thinking cap, and put on your tin foil cap, when you watched it?
Yes, you did.
You tell me what point Obama was trying to make. And you can google 100 articles of media making an issue of McCain's age, folks who I'll bet year's pay won't say the same thing if Biden runs again.
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You said Obama called him a racist. Did he actually do that?
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08-28-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Yes - McCain is gonna kill us all, War Monger, We're all gonna Die, he is a rascist. Bet they'll say how honest Romney was and a guiding light and all that when it is his turn.
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NT Times Obama endorsement Oct 2008
"Mr. Obama has met challenge after challenge, growing as a leader and putting real flesh on his early promises of hope and change. He has shown a cool head and sound judgment. We believe he has the will and the ability to forge the broad political consensus that is essential to finding solutions to this nation’s problems.
In the same time, Senator John McCain of Arizona has retreated farther and farther to the fringe of American politics, running a campaign on partisan division, class warfare and even hints of racism. His policies and worldview are mired in the past."
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08-28-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You said Obama called him a racist. Did he actually do that?
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yes
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08-28-2018, 07:21 AM
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John McCain chose George Bush and Barack Obama to speak at his funeral, not Sarah Palin and Donald Trump.
That ought to tell you something.
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08-28-2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Yes - McCain is gonna kill us all, War Monger, We're all gonna Die, he is a rascist. Bet they'll say how honest Romney was and a guiding light and all that when it is his turn.
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john, political expediency is all that matters to these people, they have no principles. none.
that mccain forgave obama, doesn’t mean obama didn’t hit him below the belt. it just means McCain was the better man.
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08-28-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
John McCain chose George Bush and Barack Obama to speak at his funeral, not Sarah Palin and Donald Trump.
That ought to tell you something.
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it doesn’t tell me that obama didn’t call him a racist. what it does tell me, is what i already knew, that McCain is ten times the man Obama is. McCain angered republicans like me when he famously said we have nothing to fear if obama won. the remarks i posted in the video, show the gratitude that obama showed for McCains reassurance.
i also mentioned the media. endlessly saying he was too old, too much of a hawk on national defense. and the NYT running a front page story that he was a philanderer.
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