Andover on fire

[ivanputski]

I have been reluctant to switch to gas... its like owning a pit bull... no problem most of the time, but only takes one incident

[nightfighter]

This is mind numbing....

I have always lived in homes with oil. No gas in the street here. As a contractor, my limited knowledge of gas systems practices is that there are PRVs or pressure relief valves, that should open in the face of excess pressure and release into open air, ie. outside, and in commercial buildings, at or above the roof elevation. I wonder if newer designs failed, or if some steps were cut out in the name of saving the almighty buck.....


Fires and explosions that could not even be responded to.... Logistical nightmare. Kudos to all the responders converging through mutual support system and beyond. Sixty plus incidents and counting.

[JohnR]

This has been nuts.

Hope the SCADA systems were not effed with /tinfoilhat

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Hope the SCADA systems were not effed with /tinfoilhat

A big challenge the utilities have is that they don't have the experience with areas like configuration management to comply with increasing regs for cyber security...so they're bench marking industries like aerospace to learn. A big area of liability still isn't even hacking it's malicious activity within the firewall.

[TheSpecialist]

Supposedly it was one of the subs that National Grid also uses, they over pressurised a line. Looks like they will be paying out huge on this

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

A big challenge the utilities have is that they don't have the experience with areas like configuration management to comply with increasing regs for cyber security...so they're bench marking industries like aerospace to learn. A big area of liability still isn't even hacking it's malicious activity within the firewall.

Hacking in the generic term.

Don't want to get hacked? Stay off the effing Internet.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Hacking in the generic term.

Don't want to get hacked? Stay off the effing Internet.

I meant they're almost more vulnerable from inside attacks, nefarious employees with thumb drives etc...