The Corrosion of Conservatism

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If only it was simple

Uh, oh, be careful now. Some people don't like words being put in their mouth. Who said it was simple?

Currently Mexicans are emigrating back more than to here, perhaps NAFTA2.0 will raise wages in Mexico and reduce it further

That's probably one of the reasons for it. it's complex, not simple.

Central America has some horrible intertwined social and governmental issues
They will take a long time to solve People will always want to escape

What if there is no escape?

scary situations where their lives are threatened

what do folks do if there is no escape and their lives are threatened?

Reducing or eliminating aid as threatened will significantly impact programs that are in place to reduce refugee migration

What if there is no escape?

Building a wall that we pay for will not inspect the 14000 trucks that come to the USA each day

Strange, we know about 14000 trucks a day . . . and we can't stop them, or a whole lot of them, and discourage more by confiscation of trucks, fines, and jailtime.

or do anything about the new routes that will appear as long as there’s demand like boats or planes

Wow . . . we can't do anything about boats and planes. How the hell did we win wars?

It also won’t stop Americans from hiring cheap labor (just like guns we already have laws for that, read about Don the Con and the polish laborers)

I wonder, if unemployed Americans were willing to hire out as "cheap labor," would Americans still hire illegals?

If there is no opportunity far fewer will come
The most aggressive people will migrate they always have, you can see examples of that here in the states
Plenty of anecdotal examples of southern New England factories hiring Vermonters because they were hard workers
The lazy people in many cases stayed on the farm

If we can't stop every single one, it's all a failure.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by detbuch

If we can't stop every single one, it's all a failure.

A great mind once said, “Don’t let good be the enemy of great.”
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Ian

A great mind once said, “Don’t let good be the enemy of great.”
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Excellent advice. It is good to prevent as many illegals as possible rather than just giving up because you can't prevent them all.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Excellent advice. It is good to prevent as many illegals as possible rather than just giving up because you can't prevent them all.

I think expanding the idea of prevention to include reevaluating the way we consider paths to legal citizenship should be a part of this solution.

While I’m not suggesting anything with regards to people that are currently here illegally, what I am saying is that I believe we have a serious issue with our immigration system when there are legal immigration paths where large well to do companies can internationally recruit people and pay them through the system but small businesses who can’t afford the same are forced to hire “illegal” help where it’s readily available because those people aren’t afforded the same experience with our system.

I’m not sure you agree with me here, but I consider this part of preventing illegal immigrants.
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