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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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I’ve heard of straight men going into women’s restrooms and attacking them
I’d bet it’s far more common than cross dressing rapists
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I’ve heard of straight men going into women’s restrooms and attacking them
I’d bet it’s far more common than cross dressing rapists
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That's what I mean, straight men. And you would make it much easier for them to get access to ladies rooms, all they need to do is say "I identify as a woman", and you'd hold the door for them to stroll right in. It's the heterosexual predators that women need to worry about. It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient so I can get into all the different Ladies Nights and get $3 draughts.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient .

So should we start referring to you as Spence 2.0?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

So should we start referring to you as Spence 2.0?

I ain’t that fluid
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient so I can get into all the different Ladies Nights and get $3 draughts.

I identify as a millionaire, so where can I get my Bentley?

Here's the difference between the parties. If I said "I am a bird", a conservative would tell me I need to see a psychiatrist. A liberal would help me knock down my house, and build a nest where my house once stood. Honest to God that's just about where we are. Liberals are just about at the point where every conceivable human impulse is to be encouraged and celebrated, the weirder the better.

[wdmso]

the bathroom bill has been on the books for 2 years and no of the fear mongering presented by conservatives has happened ...

I work at a female correctional facility I can assure you. the women I have seen with transgender dysphoria if they walked into a men's room you would not even notice them ...

if forced to use a women's restroom all the little girls and your wifes who you fear will be attacked would be saying WTF is this man doing in a ladies rest room..


But seeing many people have zero encounters that they know of or know any of these people personally .. these fairy tales come to life until it happens in their family then their tune changes

the same fairy tales were associated with desegregation ,Gays , gay marriage and I would guess by some who are using fairy tail of we need the protection of innocent women and children from Men claiming to be a women

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

the bathroom bill has been on the books for 2 years and no of the fear mongering presented by conservatives has happened ...

I work at a female correctional facility I can assure you. the women I have seen with transgender dysphoria if they walked into a men's room you would not even notice them ...

if forced to use a women's restroom all the little girls and your wifes who you fear will be attacked would be saying WTF is this man doing in a ladies rest room..


But seeing many people have zero encounters that they know of or know any of these people personally .. these fairy tales come to life until it happens in their family then their tune changes

the same fairy tales were associated with desegregation ,Gays , gay marriage and I would guess by some who are using fairy tail of we need the protection of innocent women and children from Men claiming to be a women

I'd imagine that your job gives you a very unique, and a very valid, insight into these kinds of things. But not all women are in prison, and a lot of normal women are uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with a man, and I don't think it's weird for them to feel that way. My brother went to Connecticut College, a very liberal private college. In the 1990s, one dorm there decided that since they were so evolved, they'd make the bathrooms co-ed. Some kids were fine with it. Some, mostly girls, refused to go in the bathrooms in their dorm.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

the bathroom bill has been on the books for 2 years and no of the fear mongering presented by conservatives has happened ...

I work at a female correctional facility I can assure you. the women I have seen with transgender dysphoria if they walked into a men's room you would not even notice them ...

if forced to use a women's restroom all the little girls and your wifes who you fear will be attacked would be saying WTF is this man doing in a ladies rest room..


But seeing many people have zero encounters that they know of or know any of these people personally .. these fairy tales come to life until it happens in their family then their tune changes

the same fairy tales were associated with desegregation ,Gays , gay marriage and I would guess by some who are using fairy tail of we need the protection of innocent women and children from Men claiming to be a women

"the bathroom bill has been on the books for 2 years and no of the fear mongering presented by conservatives has happened ... "

That's actually not true, you can google it. I'm not saying it happens all the time, but there have been cases of weird men taking advantage of liberalism to gain access to the ladies room to do weird, very weird, things.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If I said "I am a bird", a conservative would tell me I need to see a psychiatrist. A liberal would help me knock down my house, and build a nest where my house once stood.

That is about the most accurate statement that I think I have ever read in the political forum! Perfect depiction of where we are as a country today!

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's what I mean, straight men. And you would make it much easier for them to get access to ladies rooms, all they need to do is say "I identify as a woman", and you'd hold the door for them to stroll right in. It's the heterosexual predators that women need to worry about. It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

Ever seen a drag queen?
You’d hold the door and never know
Probably stare at their ass also
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ever seen a drag queen?
You’d hold the door and never know
Probably stare at their ass also
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Where is it written, that for men to use the ladies room, they have to be unrecognizable as a man? Where did you get that from?

I've seen drag queens who had full beards, but wore ladies' wigs. If a guy is happy with a beard and a wig, I say he should go for it. But I don't want him in a public restroom with my wife, and sure as hell not with my daughter if I had daughters. You are making stuff up as you go along, in a desperate attempt to justify your opinion.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Where is it written, that for men to use the ladies room, they have to be unrecognizable as a man? Where did you get that from?

I've seen drag queens who had full beards, but wore ladies' wigs. If a guy is happy with a beard and a wig, I say he should go for it. But I don't want him in a public restroom with my wife, and sure as hell not with my daughter if I had daughters. You are making stuff up as you go along, in a desperate attempt to justify your opinion.

How far apart do mens and women’s rooms need to be
You are somehow under the impression that all that would happen is a couple of new signs
Yet you are concerned about sending young children into a bathroom that has a typical configuration today
Have you even looked at what is proposed for gender neutral restrooms
Your attitude towards women is very similar to conservatives throughout the world, Christian and Muslim alike
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

How far apart do mens and women’s rooms need to be
You are somehow under the impression that all that would happen is a couple of new signs
Yet you are concerned about sending young children into a bathroom that has a typical configuration today
Have you even looked at what is proposed for gender neutral restrooms
Your attitude towards women is very similar to conservatives throughout the world, Christian and Muslim alike
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"How far apart do mens and women’s rooms need to be"

Don't know, don't care. This is about allowing men to use a ladies room.

"you are concerned about sending young children into a bathroom that has a typical configuration today "

First of all, it's not just me who is concerned. A lot of people are, mostly women. I am responding to their concerns. You are dismissing their concerns as illegitimate.

Isn't your side saying, at the moment, that we should be believing all women? How come that doesn't apply here? Have fun with THAT.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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Never heard of it happening. Rarely a man goes into the woman's bathroom but there's nothing stopping them from doing this already.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Never heard of it happening. Rarely a man goes into the woman's bathroom

so you are what?...studying this?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Never heard of it happening. .

Shocker. Because they won't report such things, on MSNBC.