Is Trump going to run for re-election?

[Pete F.]

If you look at some of the designs for new gender neutral bathrooms it will make more sense.
Instead of having a room with sinks and somewhat of an enclosure around toilet/urinals, they have a common washing room and private toilet rooms with no gaps to look thru (either way).
Pretty scary apparently

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you look at some of the designs for new gender neutral bathrooms it will make more sense.
Instead of having a room with sinks and somewhat of an enclosure around toilet/urinals, they have a common washing room and private toilet rooms with no gaps to look thru (either way).
Pretty scary apparently

You're missing the point. Lots of women don't want to be in the room with a man, doesn't matter if the toilet stalls go to the ground. I can't say I'd be comfortable with a woman sharing a rest room with me, but at least I know I don't need to fear of getting attacked. Women don't have that luxury.

If you had the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes for just a moment, you'd see it. But liberals struggle to accept that some people disagree with them, and some who disagree, are actually normal, rational, nice people. We aren't all sub-human. But in this case, you are mocking the notion that any woman could ever have a legitimate reason to not want to share a restroom with a man. Nit everyone is exactly like you, not everyone feels exactly the same way. Solipsism (the belief that everyone is just like me), is rabid among liberals.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I have baby-sat my nieces a zillion times, and I can't tell you how many times, when they were around 9 years old, I walked them to the entrance of a public women's room and waited. It never occurred to me that I'm narrow-minded for not being comfortable with a grown man walking in there with my nieces. It never occurred to be that if Willie Horton said "I'm a woman", that courtesy suggests that I hold the door open for him/her so he could follow my nieces in there.

In a perfect world, all public restrooms would be single toilet and gender neutral. But they weren't built that way originally (because the people who built them never fathomed we'd go this far over the edge), and we can't retroactively modify all of them to make it so.

So someone is going to have to sacrifice personal comfort for the comfort of others. I don't especially like the idea of asking little girls to make the sacrifice so that adult males can go into the ladies room. I don't want to see those people harassed in the mens room either, but I'm of the opinion that adults make sacrifices for children, not the other way around.

My thoughts exactly.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're missing the point. Lots of women don't want to be in the room with a man, doesn't matter if the toilet stalls go to the ground. I can't say I'd be comfortable with a woman sharing a rest room with me, but at least I know I don't need to fear of getting attacked. Women don't have that luxury.

If you had the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes for just a moment, you'd see it. But liberals struggle to accept that some people disagree with them, and some who disagree, are actually normal, rational, nice people. We aren't all sub-human. But in this case, you are mocking the notion that any woman could ever have a legitimate reason to not want to share a restroom with a man. Nit everyone is exactly like you, not everyone feels exactly the same way. Solipsism (the belief that everyone is just like me), is rabid among liberals.

It’s a bunch of single stall baths off a hallway with a common sink area
They have locked doors
If each one had a sink inside so it met your idea of a bathroom it would it be acceptable wouldn’t it
Open up a little bit, you’re getting a bit rabid

I suppose the touchless restrooms with no door bothers you also
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're missing the point. Lots of women don't want to be in the room with a man, doesn't matter if the toilet stalls go to the ground. I can't say I'd be comfortable with a woman sharing a rest room with me, but at least I know I don't need to fear of getting attacked. Women don't have that luxury.

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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I’ve heard of straight men going into women’s restrooms and attacking them
I’d bet it’s far more common than cross dressing rapists
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

is a "transgender woman" a guy that thinks he's a girl or a girl that thinks she's a guy?...I get these confused...or does it just work either way?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

is a "transgender woman" a guy that thinks he's a girl or a girl that thinks she's a guy?...I get these confused...or does it just work either way?

Confusion is typical for you, isn’t it?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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Never heard of it happening. Rarely a man goes into the woman's bathroom but there's nothing stopping them from doing this already.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

Its not about being attacked, its about the fact that it just makes some women feel uncomfortable. And the fact that they aren't comfortable with it is being completely ignored because they are worried about the comfort of a smaller group of people.

Basically the fact that a Trans-gendered woman not feeling comfortable using a restroom with Cis-gendered Males is more important than Cis-gendered women not feeling comfortable using a restroom with a Trans-gendered woman.

Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Confusion is typical for you, isn’t it?
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I'm usually confused and amused by the nonsense you post..care to provide an answer?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

what is wrong with these women???

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Never heard of it happening. Rarely a man goes into the woman's bathroom

so you are what?...studying this?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm usually confused and amused by the nonsense you post..care to provide an answer?

Look for yourself if you’re that interested
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I’ve heard of straight men going into women’s restrooms and attacking them
I’d bet it’s far more common than cross dressing rapists
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That's what I mean, straight men. And you would make it much easier for them to get access to ladies rooms, all they need to do is say "I identify as a woman", and you'd hold the door for them to stroll right in. It's the heterosexual predators that women need to worry about. It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Its not about being attacked, its about the fact that it just makes some women feel uncomfortable. And the fact that they aren't comfortable with it is being completely ignored because they are worried about the comfort of a smaller group of people.

Basically the fact that a Trans-gendered woman not feeling comfortable using a restroom with Cis-gendered Males is more important than Cis-gendered women not feeling comfortable using a restroom with a Trans-gendered woman.

Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

"And the fact that they aren't comfortable with it is being completely ignored because they are worried about the comfort of a smaller group of people."

A small group, anointed by liberal with victim status. And I don't deny these people have a really tough time fitting in.

"Basically the fact that a Trans-gendered woman not feeling comfortable using a restroom with Cis-gendered Males is more important than Cis-gendered women not feeling comfortable using a restroom with a Trans-gendered woman."

Blech.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

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Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

Exactly. Exactly, exactly.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient so I can get into all the different Ladies Nights and get $3 draughts.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's what I mean, straight men. And you would make it much easier for them to get access to ladies rooms, all they need to do is say "I identify as a woman", and you'd hold the door for them to stroll right in. It's the heterosexual predators that women need to worry about. It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

Ever seen a drag queen?
You’d hold the door and never know
Probably stare at their ass also
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[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient .

So should we start referring to you as Spence 2.0?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

So should we start referring to you as Spence 2.0?

I ain’t that fluid
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ever seen a drag queen?
You’d hold the door and never know
Probably stare at their ass also
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Where is it written, that for men to use the ladies room, they have to be unrecognizable as a man? Where did you get that from?

I've seen drag queens who had full beards, but wore ladies' wigs. If a guy is happy with a beard and a wig, I say he should go for it. But I don't want him in a public restroom with my wife, and sure as hell not with my daughter if I had daughters. You are making stuff up as you go along, in a desperate attempt to justify your opinion.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient so I can get into all the different Ladies Nights and get $3 draughts.

I identify as a millionaire, so where can I get my Bentley?

Here's the difference between the parties. If I said "I am a bird", a conservative would tell me I need to see a psychiatrist. A liberal would help me knock down my house, and build a nest where my house once stood. Honest to God that's just about where we are. Liberals are just about at the point where every conceivable human impulse is to be encouraged and celebrated, the weirder the better.

[wdmso]

the bathroom bill has been on the books for 2 years and no of the fear mongering presented by conservatives has happened ...

I work at a female correctional facility I can assure you. the women I have seen with transgender dysphoria if they walked into a men's room you would not even notice them ...

if forced to use a women's restroom all the little girls and your wifes who you fear will be attacked would be saying WTF is this man doing in a ladies rest room..


But seeing many people have zero encounters that they know of or know any of these people personally .. these fairy tales come to life until it happens in their family then their tune changes

the same fairy tales were associated with desegregation ,Gays , gay marriage and I would guess by some who are using fairy tail of we need the protection of innocent women and children from Men claiming to be a women

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If I said "I am a bird", a conservative would tell me I need to see a psychiatrist. A liberal would help me knock down my house, and build a nest where my house once stood.

That is about the most accurate statement that I think I have ever read in the political forum! Perfect depiction of where we are as a country today!

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Look for yourself if you’re that interested
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This is the same defense Spence uses when feeling trapped
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Where is it written, that for men to use the ladies room, they have to be unrecognizable as a man? Where did you get that from?

I've seen drag queens who had full beards, but wore ladies' wigs. If a guy is happy with a beard and a wig, I say he should go for it. But I don't want him in a public restroom with my wife, and sure as hell not with my daughter if I had daughters. You are making stuff up as you go along, in a desperate attempt to justify your opinion.

How far apart do mens and women’s rooms need to be
You are somehow under the impression that all that would happen is a couple of new signs
Yet you are concerned about sending young children into a bathroom that has a typical configuration today
Have you even looked at what is proposed for gender neutral restrooms
Your attitude towards women is very similar to conservatives throughout the world, Christian and Muslim alike
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

This is the same defense Spence uses when feeling trapped
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No just when some are being intellectually lazy.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

well my whole ira is in the stock market and i love trump for it. true about the debt. he is judged by his whole term, not one year. the market is up nicely since january 2107.
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How you doing today?
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