They got him...

[Sea Dangles]

Pete,your sources are sketchy at best. Try to work hard for an independent thought and get back soon.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Pete,your sources are sketchy at best. Try to work hard for an independent thought and get back soon.
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You want a definitive source on why a lone wolf acts, there will never be one. Do you think that anything is permissible as long as most reasonable people would not act on what is said and it’s not your fault if someone takes what you imply as a task?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You want a definitive source on why a lone wolf acts, there will never be one. Do you think that anything is permissible as long as most reasonable people would not act on what is said and it’s not your fault if someone takes what you imply as a task?
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You might want to check with Spence about context.

[wdmso]

https://www.adl.org/news/press-relea...in-hate-crimes


More hate crimes were carried out in the United States last year, with an uptick in incidents motivated by bias against Jews, Muslims and LGBT people, among others, according to new FBI data released Monday.

I am sure these hate crimes were equally distributed between conservative and liberal crazy perpetrators


What happened in conjunction with this Rise in theses ???

[scottw]

it's weird how auto-correct affects liberals far more than it affects conservatives....

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Yes, plus congested from a cold and rushing to leave for the giants game.
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That must be hard - the Giants game, of course.

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Should we consider how people react to all the internet BS not that all or even a minority, but some people
It does have a name “Stochastic terrorism”
Yes I do think this is something the person who nobody wants to call out for his behavior is responsible for
Back in 2011, an anonymous writer coined the term “stochastic terrorism” to refer to “the use of mass communication to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable,” or, in other words “remote control terror by lone wolf.”
https://qz.com/1436267/trump-stochas...s-in-violence/
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I didn't read the link. Yes I have heard the term - Stochastic terrorism - and there is something there, there. However it is not a Trump only event nor is it new.

There have been lone wolfs inspired by "something" for millennia to go out and kill and do something, worked up by some entity. The Boilsheviks might have known a thing or two about it (before they ate their young), or any anarchist group for the past X centuries. To Al Queda / ISIS, PLO, NAZIs, and everything in between. Black Lives Matter fostered this which ended in multiple scenarios of cops being killed.

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Pete,your sources are sketchy at best. Try to work hard for an independent thought and get back soon.
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I wouldn't trust Quartz but some of it is correct, it just blames one side

Originally Posted by wdmso

https://www.adl.org/news/press-relea...in-hate-crimes


More hate crimes were carried out in the United States last year, with an uptick in incidents motivated by bias against Jews, Muslims and LGBT people, among others, according to new FBI data released Monday.

I am sure these hate crimes were equally distributed between conservative and liberal crazy perpetrators


What happened in conjunction with this Rise in theses ???

What about the rise in hate crimes before last year, and the year before that, and then again the year before that??

And no the crimes are not equally distributed between left and right crazy, it ebbs and flows, depending on many factors including when the pot is stirred by bad (or misguided) actors on either side.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

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What happened in conjunction with this Rise in theses ???

I think there's a small number of very sick folks out there (you deal with some at work, I presume). They have probably always been out there, but it's a safe bet it's easier for them to find dark things online which fuel their fantasies.

I also think our culture has a collective moral compass, that's badly in need of a tune up. Not enough empathy, not enough traditional family values, not enough fathers, not nearly enough good parents out there.

The pipe bombs were sent by an apparent Trump fan. The synagogue attack was carried out by a Trump hater. I think there's sociopaths on both sides.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The pipe bombs were sent by an apparent Trump fan. The synagogue attack was carried out by a Trump hater. I think there's sociopaths on both sides.

Hating Trump doesn't make you a democrat Jim. The guy hated Trump because the President wasn't white nationalist enough.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Hating Trump doesn't make you a democrat Jim. The guy hated Trump because the President wasn't white nationalist enough.

True. But hating Trump and hating it when America sticks its neck out to help Israel, is becoming synonymous with Democrats. When will Israel stop picking on those innocent Palestinians, anyway?

But if you want a better example of a liberal sociopath, how about the guy in Dallas who assassinated the cops, is that good enough? Or was he actually a Republican too?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Hating Trump doesn't make you a democrat Jim. The guy hated Trump because the President wasn't white nationalist enough.

Your talking on the edge of provoking stochastic terrorism.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I think there's a small number of very sick folks out there (you deal with some at work, I presume). They have probably always been out there, but it's a safe bet it's easier for them to find dark things online which fuel their fantasies.

I also think our culture has a collective moral compass, that's badly in need of a tune up. Not enough empathy, not enough traditional family values, not enough fathers, not nearly enough good parents out there.

The pipe bombs were sent by an apparent Trump fan. The synagogue attack was carried out by a Trump hater. I think there's sociopaths on both sides.

our culture has a collective moral compass, that's badly in need of a tune up. Not enough empathy, not enough traditional family values, not enough fathers, not nearly enough good parents out there.

it's been this way for some time .. totally unrelated to the motivation of both of theses Men , which is clearly displayed in their Social media posts which have been spread by and reinforced by other prominent conservatives some elected some not ..

Part of a Elie Wiesel quote I saw explained my position well

Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim.

just saying there's sociopaths on both sides which I am sure their are .. avoids seeing the elephant in the room ... and I see that as taking a neutral position...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

our culture has a collective moral compass, that's badly in need of a tune up. Not enough empathy, not enough traditional family values, not enough fathers, not nearly enough good parents out there.

it's been this way for some time .. totally unrelated to the motivation of both of theses Men , which is clearly displayed in their Social media posts which have been spread by and reinforced by other prominent conservatives some elected some not ..

Part of a Elie Wiesel quote I saw explained my position well

Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim.

just saying there's sociopaths on both sides which I am sure their are .. avoids seeing the elephant in the room ... and I see that as taking a neutral position...

"it's been this way for some time "

Our moral compass has been broken for some time, I don't think it's always been this broken.

"totally unrelated to the motivation of both of theses Men "

Maybe.

"just saying there's sociopaths on both sides which I am sure their are .. avoids seeing the elephant in the room "

What's the elephant in the room, exactly? Trump? Republicans?

"and I see that as taking a neutral position"

I don't have a neutral position on violent crime. I can promise you that my position is different than your position...that doesn't mean I don't have a position.

"their Social media posts which have been spread by and reinforced by other prominent conservatives "

Yes, if it wasn't for conservatives, there would be zero poverty, we'd all live forever, and unicorns would be floating down the street..

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What happened in conjunction with this Rise in theses ???

The ease of access to crazy: The Internet.

Before the Internet, most of the crazy were small fish in a big pond had some push pull from, ya know NORMAL society, to curb some of the extreme tendencies and tinfoilhat stuff.

The Internet, however, allowed whack jobs on both sides to silo into their own cess pools of crazy (see Alex Jones and Occupy Democrats) and when they found these conglomerations of nuttiness, they socialized less with more normal folk that could attenuate their crazy.

Now that they have found their crazy, the crazy biug fish in these small ponds (road puddles seemingly)of crazy tried to "one up" each other in a race of who could manifesto over whom further fueling the fire making the nuttiness go from ludicrous speed straight to plaid.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

The ease of access to crazy: The Internet.

Before the Internet, most of the crazy were small fish in a big pond had some push pull from, ya know NORMAL society, to curb some of the extreme tendencies and tinfoilhat stuff.

The Internet, however, allowed whack jobs on both sides to silo into their own cess pools of crazy (see Alex Jones and Occupy Democrats) and when they found these conglomerations of nuttiness, they socialized less with more normal folk that could attenuate their crazy.

Now that they have found their crazy, the crazy biug fish in these small ponds (road puddles seemingly)of crazy tried to "one up" each other in a race of who could manifesto over whom further fueling the fire making the nuttiness go from ludicrous speed straight to plaid.

IMHO the internet has caused much of our problems today and the youth of America are addicted to it, they fall into depression if they don't get their daily share of likes, tweets and hash tags.