They got him...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My spin is this...it's grossly irresponsible for any president, of any party, to speak this way until the investigations are complete. But Obama is above all that, he doesn't have to wait for silly things like facts to come in, which is why he could say that the Cambridge police acted stupidly (before he knew what had taken place), when what they did was put themselves potentially at risk to protect homeowners in that area.

What Obama said was

"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

Not sure how any rational person could disagree with that.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

What Obama said was

"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

Not sure how any rational person could disagree with that.

You do know that Not Commenting at all is also an option.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You do know that Not Commenting at all is also an option.

Yes, he could have been more presidential like Trump was when John McCain passed.
Nobody is asking for perfection, a little empathy and compassion for others is all that is needed.
But a bully can never show any weakness for fear that it will reveal his inner being to all.
There is a little baby under that facade and he's scared.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes, he could have been more presidential like Trump .

Hey, NOW LOOK at who is engaging in whataboutism!!

How about we have one set of standards that we apply to both Obama and to Trump? How about we honestly admit when either one of them screwed up, and we honestly admit when either does something that helps the country? Too much to ask?

I'll start...Obama did a good job helping the economy recover, he did a poor job at easing racial tensions and respecting religious freedoms when he didn't like the situation (he tried forcing Little Sisters of the Poor to provide recreational contraception as part of healthcare, they had to go to the SCOTUS to prevail).

Trump is also helping the economy, but does an awful job at not offending people with his mannerisms and his tweets and his vindictiveness.

Both of them added large amounts to the debt.

Spence, WDMSO, Pete - you should try it. I can compliment Obama and I can criticize Trump, and neither one causes my head to explode. It's called honesty. You might like it if you give it a try. You seem terrified, absolutely terrified, of even attempting it.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yes, he could have been more presidential like Trump was when John McCain passed.
Nobody is asking for perfection, a little empathy and compassion for others is all that is needed.
But a bully can never show any weakness for fear that it will reveal his inner being to all.
There is a little baby under that facade and he's scared.

Pretty amazing leap you made there.

From Obama, 2 cambridge cops, and a professor right to Trump.

Living rent free in your head since 2016

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Pretty amazing leap you made there.

From Obama, 2 cambridge cops, and a professor right to Trump.

Living rent free in your head since 2016

Not my leap
It started with trevon Jim brought up Cambridge and I responded to your post
Meanwhile Jim’s head is exploding
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

What Obama said was

"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

Not sure how any rational person could disagree with that.

"But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry"

If one of my kids refused to cooperate with a police officer who was trying to help them, I'd expect my kid to get a negative response, and I'd be angry at my kid, not at the police, who are trying to help.

"the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home"

People get arrested every day while inside their own home.

Not a syllable form Obama to suggest that the cops were trying to help, and that his pal Skip contributed to it.

"Not sure how any rational person could disagree with that"

Of course not, you get goosebumps at everything he says.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If one of my kids refused to cooperate with a police officer who was trying to help them, I'd expect my kid to get a negative response, and I'd be angry at my kid, not at the police, who are trying to help.

If the police came to my door and demanded I get out of my own house the first thing I'm going to do is ask what it's about. He then proved he was the occupant and was arrested anyway.

People get arrested every day while inside their own home.

Not ones who haven't broken any laws.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

If the police came to my door and demanded I get out of my own house the first thing I'm going to do is ask what it's about. He then proved he was the occupant and was arrested anyway.


Not ones who haven't broken any laws.

why was he arrested? why wasn’t the cop punished? this is a state with a black governor, in a country with a black president at the time,,town might have had a black mayor. was it all racism?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

why was he arrested? why wasn’t the cop punished? this is a state with a black governor, in a country with a black president at the time,,town might have had a black mayor. was it all racism?
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Apparently he kept asking for the officer's name and badge number and the cop didn't want to give it to him. He just few in from China, can't get his door open and maybe he's a little cranky. Not worthy of arrest in your own home when you've done nothing wrong.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

If the police came to my door and demanded I get out of my own house the first thing I'm going to do is ask what it's about. He then proved he was the occupant and was arrested anyway.


Not ones who haven't broken any laws.

he was arrested for disorderly conduct. is there a law that says you can’t be guilty of that crime at your own address?
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