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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

no no, you missed
your own point. your post didn’t say trump should be held accountable ( which i agree with). you were criticizing people who defend trump. but your side still worships clinton. if it’s ok for your sidento overlook moral lapses, why is it wrong for my side to do so?
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Again you think Clinton supporters worship Clinton ??

Trump supporters Worship Trump ... (watch a rally ) once Again attempting to claim they are the same

I know Getting a blow job is horrible and lying about it is worse

but playing with the russians their no harm in that or paying of a porn star before an election or just lying daily is just being a politician for Trump..

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know Getting a blow job is horrible and lying about it is worse

The only time it’s horrible is when it’s non consensual. Clinton and Lewinski were both into it...
that whole investigation was a total joke. So what if he denied it...it was no ones business but his and his wife’s. Were any laws broken ?? No.

Trump on the other hand is basically a mafia boss directing a bunch of felons at this point.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The only time it’s horrible is when it’s non consensual. Clinton and Lewinski were both into it...
that whole investigation was a total joke. So what if he denied it...it was no ones business but his and his wife’s. Were any laws broken ?? No.

Trump on the other hand is basically a mafia boss directing a bunch of felons at this point.
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Well Fellatrix and Felon both start with F
So they are the same
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The only time it’s horrible is when it’s non consensual. Clinton and Lewinski were both into it...
that whole investigation was a total joke. So what if he denied it...it was no ones business but his and his wife’s. Were any laws broken ?? No.
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Consensual but still highly unethical.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

Consensual but still highly unethical.
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Worthy of impeachment ??? Doubtful.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Consensual but still highly unethical.
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the ability for an intern to give consent to the president, is debatable. so you think teachers should
be able to get involved with students, if the student is above the
minimum age of consent? the difference in authority, doesn’t effect the ability to give consent? i guess you’re not into the whole me too movement then, most were above the age of consent.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the ability for an intern to give consent to the president, is debatable. so you think teachers should
be able to get involved with students, if the student is above the
minimum age of consent? the difference in authority, doesn’t effect the ability to give consent? i guess you’re not into the whole me too movement then, most were above the age of consent.
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I think you’re confusing current CT law with Federal law, and also consider attitudes towards this stuff are a lot different now versus 1995.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

and also consider attitudes towards this stuff are a lot different now versus 1995.
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for some .....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you’re confusing current CT law with Federal law, and also consider attitudes towards this stuff are a lot different now versus 1995.
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nice dodge. i asked you what you think. don’t want to share? Many states, in addition to CT, make it illegal for students to get involved with teachers.

Again, afraid to tell us what you think?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

nice dodge. i asked you what you think. don’t want to share? Many states, in addition to CT, make it illegal for students to get involved with teachers.

Again, afraid to tell us what you think?
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Apples and oranges. With teachers you have the potential for a power imbalance but also for the student to use sex to get preferential treatment. I’m not sure it needs to be illegal if the ages of consent are within range but it’s still unethical and should carry a penalty.

If everyone is an adult the situation is a bit different but certainly carries clear ethics and moral risks.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The only time it’s horrible is when it’s non consensual. Clinton and Lewinski were both into it...
that whole investigation was a total joke. So what if he denied it...it was no ones business but his and his wife’s. Were any laws broken ?? No.

Trump on the other hand is basically a mafia boss directing a bunch of felons at this point.
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the law says that when the two parties are from unequal places on the .org chart, that it can’t be consensual. this is why teachers cannot get involved with students, even if the student is 18. in any event, bill didn’t get into trouble for the fling, he got into trouble for
lying about it under oath. you seem to think he got impeached because if the fling - nope. and maybe you don’t care, but i’d say it’s also horrible when the man is married and has children.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the law says that when the two parties are from unequal places on the .org chart, that it can’t be consensual.
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didn't clinton sign that legislation in to law?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again you think Clinton supporters worship Clinton ??

Trump supporters Worship Trump ... (watch a rally ) once Again attempting to claim they are the same

I know Getting a blow job is horrible and lying about it is worse

but playing with the russians their no harm in that or paying of a porn star before an election or just lying daily is just being a politician for Trump..

Bill Clinton is still very popular with democrats, and unless i has a stroke this morning, Hilary was the democratic presidential nominee in 2016.

WDMSO, your side is very very comfortable nominating people
who have horrible ethics. that’s ok, because some of them, like bill clinton, were decent presidents. but it means you can’t wag your finger and lecture republicans when we do the same exact thing.

is paying off a porn star, which he did before he was a politician, worse than what Clinton did while in office? Debatable i guess. Both men are reptiles. Both made the country better in my opinion. i can live with the moral lapses if they implement policies which improve the country.
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