Syria

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

They can get out of Afghanistan. Why are they there? .

A totally different topic then what's going on...

did you Know

In recent months, Washington has been trying to help launch a peace process between Kabul and the Taliban


Trump’s decision comes just days after senior U.S. officials met in Dubai with top representatives from the Taliban’s political office in Qatar and its Pakistan-based senior leadership. The insurgents would now enter any formal peace talks from a position of deep strength, because they’ve gotten the withdrawals they’ve always wanted without having to give up anything in return.

But but Bo bergdahl was a horrible deal .. maybe but compared to this its not a blip on the radar screen

[Sea Dangles]

Next thing you know he will be giving the Taliban 200Billion overnight,unmarked. Because while Bergdahl May have been a bad deal,it got horrendous at certain junctures.
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Next thing you know he will be giving the Taliban 200Billion overnight,unmarked.
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History really isn’t your friend is it?
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

History really isn’t your friend is it?
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If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by wdmso

A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Not to worry, he has Jared and Ivanka to give him advise on global affairs.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Why are you blaming me, all I did was vote for a person who is saving your future.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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Ha thanks Chris.
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[Jim in CT]

you people
are literally turning into imbeciles. everything he does is wrong. he drank a glass of water?? you know who else drank water - Hitler!

he may well be wrong in syria. but i don’t recall the libs getting their panties bunched up when obama
pulled us out of iraq, which also had serious adverse effects.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you people
are literally turning into imbeciles. everything he does is wrong. he drank a glass of water?? you know who else drank water - Hitler!

he may well be wrong in syria. but i don’t recall the libs getting their panties bunched up when obama
pulled us out of iraq, which also had serious adverse effects.
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speaking of imbeciles ever hear of research

At the end of the Bush administration, when the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, was negotiated, setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty.

Mr. Obama was willing to support a continued military presence. In June, diplomats and Iraqi officials said that Mr. Obama had told Mr. Maliki that he was prepared to leave up to 10,000 soldiers to continue training and equipping the Iraqi security forces. Mr. Maliki agreed, but said he needed time to line up political allies.

the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops.

So are you suggesting we should have used force and stayed .... its their country PS did anyone have a crystal ball to foresee the future ?? hindsight is always 20\20 and a provided a weak position for criticism years after

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

speaking of imbeciles ever hear of research

At the end of the Bush administration, when the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, was negotiated, setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty.

Mr. Obama was willing to support a continued military presence. In June, diplomats and Iraqi officials said that Mr. Obama had told Mr. Maliki that he was prepared to leave up to 10,000 soldiers to continue training and equipping the Iraqi security forces. Mr. Maliki agreed, but said he needed time to line up political allies.

the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops.

So are you suggesting we should have used force and stayed .... its their country PS did anyone have a crystal ball to foresee the future ?? hindsight is always 20\20 and a provided a weak position for criticism years after

he could have tried getting another sofa, a lot of people thought he should
have. but because we’re talking about obama, everyone who disagrees with, is an idiot and a racist, while everyone who disagrees with trump, is legitimate and righteous.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he could have tried getting another sofa, a lot of people thought he should
have. but because we’re talking about obama, everyone who disagrees with, is an idiot and a racist, while everyone who disagrees with trump, is legitimate and righteous.
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he did but it was not a priority... but again your criticizing a past choice

based on outcomes that happened years later with the assumption if we hadn't left things would be different .


The issue with trump and syria it the leaving the kurds hanging them out to dry against the Turks because Recep Tayyip Erdoğanand asked (another strong man he likes )

the image we dont help those who help us is the real issue not so much the the fear of ISIS making a comeback because of it

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

he did but it was not a priority... but again your criticizing a past choice

based on outcomes that happened years later with the assumption if we hadn't left things would be different .


The issue with trump and syria it the leaving the kurds hanging them out to dry against the Turks because Recep Tayyip Erdoğanand asked (another strong man he likes )

the image we dont help those who help us is the real issue not so much the the fear of ISIS making a comeback because of it

oh, where is it written that we shouldn’t criticize a past choice?

Do you listen to yourself?
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[Nebe]

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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so instead of saying you people, i should
have to list all of you by name, individually? no thanks.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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and thoughtless people who can’t defend their positions, call everyone who disagree with them a racist, a learning tool for you.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and thoughtless people who can’t defend their positions, call everyone who disagree with them a racist, a learning tool for you.
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Cowardice
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Cowardice
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It’s more like genius.


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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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I am amused by how the snowflakes love to Cherrypick the “dog whistle “ terms.
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[wdmso]

Turkey is massing troops near a town in northern Syria held by a U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led force, a war monitor said as Turkish media reported Sunday new reinforcement crossing the borders.

[wdmso]

Contradicting Trump, Bolton says no withdrawal from Syria until ISIS destroyed

So Trump lied again???? say it ain't so

[Pete F.]

Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

There will be no outrage like when Clinton was personally held responsible for the deaths in Benghazi

There was none over the 4 in Niger last February and I suspect there will be none for these 4 at the hands of the defeated isis there’s no political benefit for the right.

Unless it’s an illegal who kills a cop they could care less politically
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Four American soldiers killed today by the defeated ISIS

We were told, over and over in many ways by many Dems, that being over there, warring and killing Muslims, would just lead to the recruitment of more "radicals," jihadists, Al Qaeda, and Isis members. But now, are we to believe that we must be there to kill them in order to stop them from growing. This is confusing.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

We were told, over and over in many ways by many Dems, that being over there, warring and killing Muslims, would just lead to the recruitment of more "radicals," jihadists, Al Qaeda, and Isis members. But now, are we to believe that we must be there to kill them in order to stop them from growing. This is confusing.

It is and always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, but pulling out wholesale and allowing Putin free reign is a mistake.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

It is and always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation, but pulling out wholesale and allowing Putin free reign is a mistake.
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If we pull out after ISIS is totally eliminated, what is preventing Putin from having free reign at that time. Must we always stay there as some kind of buffer against him? Must we always have troops in Europe for the same reason? Must we always have troops in the Pacific Rim?

I'll play a Pete F and ask, isn't there a better way? Is there a road to worldwide free and open trade that peacefully benefits everyone? Is it at least a smidgeon bit possible that something like Trump's sort of mimicking the Teddy Roosevelt notion of walking softly with a big stick in negotiating with adversaries to replace animosity with mutually beneficial economic relations?

Is it that bad to actually, at least try, to convince Russia and China and North Korea to exchange some smaller political gifts that lead to better economic lives for all their people, and doing so without threatening to overthrow them if they do come on board?

And if that fails, maintain the big stick, and let it be known that you'll use it if the preference is to attack us rather than trade with us and our friends.