The Trump Tax Cut: Even Worse Than You’ve Heard

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Wow that’s some crazy thinking they should be thankful for the tax cut in place of a raise that affects their retirement down the road??
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Were you this concerned in 2011, 2012, and 2013 when Obama cancelled the government pay raises? just trying to establish some consistency in logic

also of note is that Obama didn't increase the Locality adjustment in 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,and 2015, which also affects retirement.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Were you this concerned in 2011, 2012, and 2013 when Obama cancelled the government pay raises? just trying to establish some consistency in logic

also of note is that Obama didn't increase the Locality adjustment in 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,and 2015, which also affects retirement.

Now you are guilty of whataboutism!!

And no, it wasn't objectionable then.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Were you this concerned in 2011, 2012, and 2013 when Obama cancelled the government pay raises? just trying to establish some consistency in logic

Not true...
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Not true...
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Yeah, I just make this chit up as i go along

https://www.generalschedule.org/raise

https://www.generalschedule.org/localities

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Yeah, I just make this chit up as i go along

https://www.generalschedule.org/raise

https://www.generalschedule.org/localities

Obama froze pay in the recession but tried to lift it coming out which was blocked by House Republicans. I don’t think you’re making things up just not well informed.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Obama froze pay in the recession but tried to lift it coming out which was blocked by House Republicans. I don’t think you’re making things up just not well informed.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/u.../30freeze.html

"President Obama on Monday announced a two-year pay freeze for civilian federal workers"

and the 3rd year he offered a robust 0.5% (ooooohhhh), pay raise (after initially freezing it) and, you are correct, that was blocked by the house.

first 2 years, all on Obama.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/u.../30freeze.html

"President Obama on Monday announced a two-year pay freeze for civilian federal workers"

and the 3rd year he offered a robust 0.5% (ooooohhhh) pay raise (after initially freezing it) and, you are correct, that was blocked by the house.

first 2 years, all on Obama.

Coming out of a massive recession. Duh.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Coming out of a massive recession. Duh.
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soooooooo, that would make it "True" then?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Coming out of a massive recession. Duh.
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but liberals always say the best way to grow the economy, is to increase pay for workers. so why did the democrats, who controlled everything for the first two obama years, choose not to help the economy by raising wages for federal workers.

and first you told TDF thatbit
never happened, then when he proved it, you claimed it was correct economic policy to freeze. you’re all over the place here.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Were you this concerned in 2011, 2012, and 2013 when Obama cancelled the government pay raises? just trying to establish some consistency in logic

also of note is that Obama didn't increase the Locality adjustment in 2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,and 2015, which also affects retirement.

another one who is cursed by the inability see things in context


It would be the first pay freeze for civilian federal workers since 2011 to 2013, when President Barack Obama instituted a three-year pay freeze as the nation recovered from the recession.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

another one who is cursed by the inability see things in context


It would be the first pay freeze for civilian federal workers since 2011 to 2013, when President Barack Obama instituted a three-year pay freeze as the nation recovered from the recession.

You and spence need to get your stories straight, he says it never happened.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You and spence need to get your stories straight, he says it never happened.
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You are arguing with an idiot,and guess what happens next...
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You are arguing with an idiot,and guess what happens next...
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I know, down the rabbit hole I go
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You and spence need to get your stories straight, he says it never happened.
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and I said you fail to see context (nothing about it didn't happen)
.... once again your having a hard time about the details

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and I said you fail to see context (nothing about it didn't happen)
.... once again your having a hard time about the details

I'm pretty sure you are the one having the problem with the details. I think I'm the only one that actually supplied, you know, details.

Is the fact that Trump wanted to freeze the pay increases because of a need to reign in Government spending less noble than Obama doing it because of the recession? Is that the context that maybe you are missing? Or is the context just a hatred for the man that drives your every thought?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Is the fact that Trump wanted to freeze the pay increases because of a need to reign in Government spending less noble than Obama doing it because of the recession?

YES. BECAUSE SHUT UP.