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01-06-2019, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Pete you dodged the question once again like Jim said
Horton had nothing to lose committing rape or any other crime while out of prison on furlough
Life is life
If they tack on more years it is still life
Good thing he did not kill you while he was out free
Get it?
How is it ok? Not some know it all bull about recidivism
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I didn’t dodge it
I said I don’t care
That ad was a political tool.
It is the textbook example of a dog whistle ad and you guys are still responding to it.
80 billion dollars a year
The highest imprisonment per capita in the world by far
10 to 1 compared to most of the G20
That add was around 30 years ago and still prevents criminal justice reform
We are not the safest country in the world, if prison was all we needed to do to be safe we should be
Sorry I’d rather live in a free society than an authoritarian one.
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01-06-2019, 12:48 PM
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me but I am not in charge
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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01-06-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Sorry I’d rather live in a free society than an authoritarian one.
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'Free' to you, is a place where people convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole (which pretty much means your concerns about recidivism are moot) should be able to go out for the weekend, as long as they promise to voluntarily come back on Sunday night? |
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01-06-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
'Free' to you, is a place where people convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole (which pretty much means your concerns about recidivism are moot) should be able to go out for the weekend, as long as they promise to voluntarily come back on Sunday night?
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No Jim it’s a nation that is not driven by a mistake made more than 30 years ago that has been made into a false issue that makes reasonable criminal justice reform nearly impossible.
That does not mean make the same mistake again, but to be brave enough to take some chances.
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01-06-2019, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
No Jim it’s a nation that is not driven by a mistake made more than 30 years ago that has been made into a false issue that makes reasonable criminal justice reform nearly impossible.
That does not mean make the same mistake again, but to be brave enough to take some chances.
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Apparently Trump was brave enough and took some chances and did what you refer to as nearly impossible by signing a prison reform bill just recently. |
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01-06-2019, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Apparently Trump was brave enough and took some chances and did what you refer to as nearly impossible by signing a prison reform bill just recently.
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That didn't get a lot of press either, but that was a bipartisan bill. |
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01-06-2019, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That didn't get a lot of press either, but that was a bipartisan bill.
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Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner (another really bad evil person) was largely instrumental in getting the bill going and twisting congressional arms to get it done. |
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01-07-2019, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner (another really bad evil person) was largely instrumental in getting the bill going and twisting congressional arms to get it done.
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Twisting republican arms that is ... |
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01-07-2019, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That didn't get a lot of press either, but that was a bipartisan bill.
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got plenty of press,, not the Tump praising kind you long for..
the only thing Trump was involved in was it's signing of the bill .... |
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01-07-2019, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
got plenty of press,, not the Tump praising kind you long for..
the only thing Trump was involved in was it's signing of the bill ....
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The only thing. Incredible. Without him, it doesn't pass. He is 1/3 of the equation, and without his influence and negotiating for it, the House and Senate would not have approved it. |
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01-06-2019, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
No Jim it’s a nation that is not driven by a mistake made more than 30 years ago that has been made into a false issue that makes reasonable criminal justice reform nearly impossible.
That does not mean make the same mistake again, but to be brave enough to take some chances.
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Did the Horton mistake happen 30 years before the ad was made? Or was it recent, at the time the ad was made? |
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01-07-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Did the Horton mistake happen 30 years before the ad was made? Or was it recent, at the time the ad was made?
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The Willie Horton ad and the Angel Medrano ad both were run in the Bush vs Dukakis campaign by the opposing sides. Both happened prior to the campaign
The policy that allowed Horton to be released was in place prior to Dukakis’s election as governor and changed during his administration after the Horton incident.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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01-08-2019, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Sorry I’d rather live in a free society than an authoritarian one.
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Ya know Pete,
You are supporting the party that is authoritarian not I.
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