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01-06-2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The hell he can't. Bill Clinton was a good president. He was such a sleaze, that LAWYERS decided even he was beneath them, and they disbarred him. But he made the country better.
Right or wrong?
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Clinton had infidelity issues for sure but I don’t think he did much otherwise as president to qualify as a sleeze.
Pretty sure he wasn’t actually disbarred either.
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01-06-2019, 12:49 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Woodrow Wilson was no peach.....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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01-06-2019, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Woodrow Wilson was no peach.....
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Great president though on many fronts.
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01-06-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Great president though on many fronts.
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He got J Edgar Hoover on his path, beginning with he Alien Enemy Bureau. Then there was George Creel working his dirty deeds in the Committee on Public Information. And then there was the misuse of power through the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. None of that would fly in today's world of the internet and social media. Wilson had a little known, seldom recognized nasty dark side....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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01-06-2019, 02:38 PM
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GrandBob
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don't they all...well maybe not the "little known" part
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01-06-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
He got J Edgar Hoover on his path, beginning with he Alien Enemy Bureau. Then there was George Creel working his dirty deeds in the Committee on Public Information. And then there was the misuse of power through the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. None of that would fly in today's world of the internet and social media. Wilson had a little known, seldom recognized nasty dark side....
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In context of WW1 I’m not sure some of this stuff is insidious as you make it sound. I do remember Wilson having some race issues though.
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01-06-2019, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton had infidelity issues for sure but I don’t think he did much otherwise as president to qualify as a sleeze.
Pretty sure he wasn’t actually disbarred either.
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lying under oath, nah that's no biggie...
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01-06-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
lying under oath, nah that's no biggie...
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It’s not good but when you’re trying to squirrel your way out of an improper affair I can see it. Not a ringing character endorsement but I’m not sure it qualifies as sleeze.
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01-06-2019, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It’s not good but when you’re trying to squirrel your way out of an improper affair I can see it. Not a ringing character endorsement but I’m not sure it qualifies as sleeze.
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So being serially unfaithful, serially betraying your wife and child, then using that as a political weapon by accusing the GOP of framing him, and then lying about it under oath as POTUS...doesn't rise to the level of sleezy…
okee-dokey.
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01-06-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So being serially unfaithful, serially betraying your wife and child, then using that as a political weapon by accusing the GOP of framing him, and then lying about it under oath as POTUS...doesn't rise to the level of sleezy…
okee-dokey.
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Not in the context of the original statement. I’ve never said I’m a fan of Clinton’s infidelity but most of it is a personal issue.
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01-06-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Pretty sure he wasn’t actually disbarred either.
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Tell that to your pals at NBC...
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10904831/n.../#.XDJEn_ZFxhE
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01-06-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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That says suspended not disbarred...not the same thing.
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01-06-2019, 01:38 PM
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That says suspended not disbarred...not the same thing.
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POsted the wrong article...
"In 2001, following a 5-year suspension by the Arkansas bar, the United States Supreme Court disbarred Bill Clinton"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disbarment
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01-06-2019, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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The Supreme Court didn’t actually disbar him either, Clinton left the bar during the appeal period.
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01-06-2019, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
The Supreme Court didn’t actually disbar him either, Clinton left the bar during the appeal period.
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Awesome that you know more than the entire internet. Simply dazzling.
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