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02-07-2019, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i keep asking you if walls workedmin san diego, yuma, and el paso, and you keep dodging.
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This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered. Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert?
And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard who is responsible for a small slice of the border versus a rep. who knows info. about many many times the length of what a border guard knows. All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.
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02-07-2019, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered. Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert?
And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard who is responsible for a small slice of the border versus a rep. who knows info. about many many times the length of what a border guard knows. All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.
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"This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered."
I don't see your answer, so instead of saying "this has been answered", can you just answer it again?
"Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert? "
I don't know. Is the terrain identical in San Diego, and Yuma, and El Paso? Is the terrain that much different where Trump wants to expand them? If the terrain is different, why did all the dems still support expanding the wall in 2006 and 2013?
Why does the Israeli southern wall, on the desert, help stop illegal immigration?
"And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard "
How about Obama's head of the Border Patrol? He was responsible for the whole border, he was appointed by Obama and fired by Trump, so he has no reason to lie to make Trump look good. Does he know anything?
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02-07-2019, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered."
I don't see your answer, so instead of saying "this has been answered", can you just answer it again?So are prob. the most prolific poster here and either miss responses or choose to ignore them but complain that people aren't responding to your question and you wonder why they don't respond to each and every question.
"Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert? "
I don't know. Is the terrain identical in San Diego, and Yuma, and El Paso? Is the terrain that much different where Trump wants to expand them? If the terrain is different, why did all the dems still support expanding the wall in 2006 and 2013?
Why does the Israeli southern wall, on the desert, help stop illegal immigration?
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BC Isreal is different and there are spots where you can walk out of your house go 50 yards and cross the border - same as SD or EP. That isn't the case in middle of the desert or on the Rio Grande.
By your logic since there are flood control walls on the naugatuck river in Ansonia and Derby we need to put another 70 miles of flood control walls on the remainder of the river since they have also flooded in the past.
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02-07-2019, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
BC Isreal is different and there are spots where you can walk out of your house go 50 yards and cross the border - same as SD or EP. That isn't the case in middle of the desert or on the Rio Grande.
By your logic since there are flood control walls on the naugatuck river in Ansonia and Derby we need to put another 70 miles of flood control walls on the remainder of the river since they have also flooded in the past.
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So I'll ask you then, did walls work in San Diego, Yuma, and El Paso?
If the remaining terrain is so un-fit for expanded walls, why did dems approve it, in 2006 and in 2013?
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02-08-2019, 05:06 AM
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well just paint the wall black they will get to Hot to Climb ..
that's the Logic with this POTUS and his Base
And jim in yuma and arizona yes the Wall has reduced crossing so have thousands other things in conjunction those... wall are not the sole reason U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade But in the minds of Trump's and base that's the reason
Ghost stick shads work in the Canal Mac color Sp minnows or Savage Jigs kill the bass there.. .... Doesn't mean they are As effective anywhere else .... thats the answers you have been given Multiple Times
its just not the one you want ...
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02-08-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So I'll ask you then, did walls work in San Diego, Yuma, and El Paso?
If the remaining terrain is so un-fit for expanded walls, why did dems approve it, in 2006 and in 2013?
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Those questions have been answered a few times. No one claims walls aren't effective in some places - that is why they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).
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02-08-2019, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Those questions have been answered a few times. No one claims walls aren't effective in some places - that is why they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).
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many people are claiming thatbwalls don’t work even in some places, and are claiming they are immoral to boot. and, naturally, they are racist.
if the areas not currently walled have terrain not lending itself to extended walls, why did all the democrats support expanding the walls in 2006 and 2013? and why are so many border patrol professionals, including Obama’s head of the Border Patrol, insisting more walls will work?
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02-07-2019, 02:07 PM
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All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.
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Then I have good news for you. Trump also isn't asking for a wall from coast to coast, not even close. Just where he thinks it makes sense.
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