Trump’s Emergency

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Maybe after you experience a family member get hooked on the drugs that are and have been flooding in from Mexico and they overdose & die, then you change your tune.
Maybe you need a family member killed by an illegal to change your tune.
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I have several times though none have been killed by illegal immigrants, several have had drug issues, luckily so far all have made it thru to date. I’m sorry for your loss but a wall won’t stop drugs. There’s too much money involved. We need to make it so Suboxone is less than opiates and make sure it’s available to addicts.
I also know people that have lost family members to gun violence which claims 100+ victims daily in this country, which is far more than murders by illegal immigrants and that’s not an emergency.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I also know people that have lost family members to gun violence which claims 100+ victims daily in this country, which is far more than murders by illegal immigrants and that’s not an emergency.
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Murder committed by American citizens is a crime that is addressed at the state level. It is not a federal government responsibility to solve the problem. The President cannot invoke his emergency powers to stop the murders by citizens that happen in the various states.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

II also know people that have lost family members to gun violence which claims 100+ victims daily in this country, which is far more than murders by illegal immigrants and that’s not an emergency.
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Stupid argument. No one is saying that all crime is committed by illegals. But we can't kick out American citizens who are would-be criminals, and send them to Mexico. The federal government certainly can deport all those who are here illegally, and many feel they should. Before Trump was POTUS, we heard Obama, Pelosi, Hilary talk about the downside of illegal immigration and porous borders.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Stupid argument. No one is saying that all crime is committed by illegals. But we can't kick out American citizens who are would-be criminals, and send them to Mexico. The federal government possibly could deport all those who are here illegally, and some feel they should. Before Trump was POTUS, we heard Obama, Pelosi, Hilary talk about the downside of illegal immigration and porous borders.

fixed it for you
Stupid reason for the reallocation of resources.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

fixed it for you
Stupid reason for the reallocation of resources.

Was it stupid when the democrats supported it in 2006 and 2013?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The federal government certainly can deport all those who are here illegally, and many feel they should.

How exactly do you deport 12 million people, many with families containing minor US citizens?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How exactly do you deport 12 million people, many with families containing minor US citizens?

You probably don't. But as detbuch said, that is the jurisdiction of the federal government, while dealing with murders committed by US citizens, is usually the responsibility of the states.

Pete gave the argument (the weak argument) that most crime isn't committed by illegals. We can't do anything about legal citizens who are about to commit crime. But we can do something about the illegals who are potential criminals.