Jussie Smullett hoax

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.

— Donald Trump on Saturday, November 21st, 2015 in comments during a speech

Arguing that there are terrorist sympathizers in the United States, Donald Trump says he saw "thousands" of New Jerseyans celebrating after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," the Republican presidential candidate said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

The next day, ABC This Week host George Stephanopoulos asked Trump if he misspoke, noting that "the police say that didn't happen."

Trump -- who has said he was in his Manhattan apartment the morning of the attack -- doubled down.

"It was on television. I saw it," Trump said. "It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good."

Here, a NJ police captain confirms Trump's claim. So who is lying?

https://nypost.com/2015/12/21/nj-pol...ebrate-on-911/

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Here, a NJ police captain confirms Trump's claim. So who is lying?

https://nypost.com/2015/12/21/nj-pol...ebrate-on-911/

Trump said he saw it from his home which was like 5 miles from Jersey city. He also claims "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

So obviously Trump is lying again.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Trump said he saw it from his home which was like 5 miles from Jersey city. He also claims "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

So obviously Trump is lying again.

I have little doubt he lied. His lie, would not have sent anyone to prison, would it? Did he name specific people by name, like what happened to that Sandman kid in KY, who may soon own the Washington Post?

[FishermanTim]

OK, so getting back on topic, apparently he admitted to mailing himself the letters and creating this hoax.

Yeah, it's going to help his career....if he wanted to be seen on "TMZ" or "Celebrity wanna-be Jeopardy" or some other train-wreck glamorizing waste-of-time show!!!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

OK, so getting back on topic, apparently he admitted to mailing himself the letters and creating this hoax.

Yeah, it's going to help his career....if he wanted to be seen on "TMZ" or "Celebrity wanna-be Jeopardy" or some other train-wreck glamorizing waste-of-time show!!!

perpetrating a hoax didn’t hurt Al Sharpton.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

perpetrating a hoax didn’t hurt Al Sharpton.
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Its going to hurt this guy, a lot.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Its going to hurt this guy, a lot.

We'll see.

Pundits at CNN are "heartbroken" that the hate crime didn't happen. They would prefer that a racist hate crime had taken place. No agenda there, no sir. That's where we are, they'd be happier if he was beaten by whites, had a noose tied around his neck, and sprayed with bleach.

All about The Narrative. Between the Covington case and this, I think The Narrative is going to check itself into rehab.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Its going to hurt this guy, a lot.

you might be right, the chief of chicago police wasn’t very happy. he was awesome.

i also saw some of this guys tweets about Trump, he
makes Pete look like Sean Hannity.

today’s liberals act like we’re living in birmingham in the 1950s. because they hate the president and becuse things are going mostly well, they have to invent mass bigotry.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I have little doubt he lied. His lie, would not have sent anyone to prison, would it? Did he name specific people by name, like what happened to that Sandman kid in KY, who may soon own the Washington Post?

Ok, bc I was confused bc you asked earlier who was the one lying.

I believe Trump repeatedly said that the central park 5 raped the women even after everyone else knew they didn't do it. So he continued to try to ruin their lives. And Trump continued to lie about "thousands and thousands" celebrating the WTC. I'm sure many faced repercussions from his continuing lying.

And the Repub. made him our President. If he was a Dem. you would be starting weekly threads stating how the Dems. don't have any morals and blah blah blah.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Ok, bc I was confused bc you asked earlier who was the one lying.

I believe Trump repeatedly said that the central park 5 raped the women even after everyone else knew they didn't do it. So he continued to try to ruin their lives. And Trump continued to lie about "thousands and thousands" celebrating the WTC. I'm sure many faced repercussions from his continuing lying.

And the Repub. made him our President. If he was a Dem. you would be starting weekly threads stating how the Dems. don't have any morals and blah blah blah.

Not sure how many times I have to say that Trump is a scumbag. I can admit that. You point out the bad stuff he does, and I say you're right he's a scumbag. I point out bad stuff the left does, and you respond by pointing out bad stuff Trump does. If you're saying that all these liberal politicians and media talking heads are no better than Trump, I agree (to a point), but you don't seem to want to say that. I point out good and bad on both sides, I don't see you doing that. I see you endlessly pointing out bad stuff that the right does.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If you're saying that all these liberal politicians and media talking heads are no better than Trump, I agree (to a point), but you don't seem to want to say that.I have said that dozens of times. Both sides have bad actors and that is not limited to Trump on the right. I point out good and bad on both sides, I don't see you doing that.True, I don't point out good things on either side. I think I am consistent in that regard. I see you endlessly pointing out bad stuff that the right does.

The vast majority of the time I point out the bad things on the right in response to your blaming the left and it is to show as you said above, to point out that both sides do somethings.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The vast majority of the time I point out the bad things on the right in response to your blaming the left and it is to show as you said above, to point out that both sides do somethings.

you are the yin to jim's yang...you complete each other

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Not sure how many times I have to say that Trump is a scumbag. I can admit that. You point out the bad stuff he does, and I say you're right he's a scumbag. I point out bad stuff the left does, and you respond by pointing out bad stuff Trump does. If you're saying that all these liberal politicians and media talking heads are no better than Trump, I agree (to a point), but you don't seem to want to say that. I point out good and bad on both sides, I don't see you doing that. I see you endlessly pointing out bad stuff that the right does.

If you can still support Don the Con, while ignoring the investigations, indictments, guilty pleas, lies, bullying, child imprisonment, money laundering, racism, misogyny, infidelity, environmental rape, and high treason, you’re not just misinformed.

I can deal with A turd, he's a pile of #^&#^&#^&#^&.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you can still support Don the Con, while ignoring the investigations (still ongoing), indictments (Trump has not been indicted yet), guilty pleas (Trump has not yet pleaded guilty), lies, bullying, child imprisonment (was following precedent), money laundering (Trump has not yet been convicted of money laundering), racism, misogyny (Trump has not actually proven to be racist or mysogynist, in many cases it's quite the contrary), infidelity (not more than his famous predecessors, and not while in office), environmental rape (that's a matter of opinion not a fact), and high treason (He hasn't been officially charged much less proven guilty), you’re not just misinformed.

I can deal with A turd, he's a pile of #^&#^&#^&#^&.

Geeeez . . . I thought the very recent Kavanaugh, Covington kids, and Jessie Smollet things would teach us not to rush to judgment!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you can still support Don the Con, while ignoring the investigations, indictments, guilty pleas, lies, bullying, child imprisonment, money laundering, racism, misogyny, infidelity, environmental rape, and high treason, you’re not just misinformed.

I can deal with A turd, he's a pile of #^&#^&#^&#^&.

"ignoring the investigations" which have produced zero evidence of an impeachable offense. If that's wrong, please be very specific.

"child imprisonment"

Trump began that process? It wasn't policy that he inherited? Google the photos that people used to hammer Trump, which then turned out to be form the Obama years.

When you list of all of the many moral transgressions, and you make no mention of the accomplishments, anyone would look bad. When you balance the bad with the good, it paints a different picture. Which is why you ignore the good, because you're not interested in the truthful picture, you're interested in The Narrative.