senate democrats support infanticide?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

only the right tries to hide discrimination in the cover of religious freedom... you guys have been doing it for years ... I dont care what a church and its members decide its their church ... but when that religion influences or becomes state or federal policy that's where I have an issue ...



Ask yourself what party demands freedoms for themselves and not others Republicans

as to the alcohol ban by
muslims...obama ruled that muslim truck drivers could
not be forced to transport
your so clueless its no longer funny .... once again Facts get in the way of your BS

//www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mairead-mcardle/eeoc-awards-240k-muslim-truck-drivers-fired-refusing-deliver-alcohol


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ob...ivers-lawsuit/

WDMSO, read my post. I specifically said that the Obama administration ruled that Muslim truck drivers can not be forced to abandon their religion at work (I agree 100% with that ruling. But why then, are Christian bakers forced to abandon their religious beliefs at work?

Whatever you thing you caught me in, you didn't. I know full well what protections the Obama administration gave to the Muslim truck drivers. My question is, why do they have more rights than the Christian baker.

I told you to take your time, maybe you rushed it. So take all the time you need, and let me know why the Christian baker doesn't get the same protections as the Muslim truck driver.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO, read my post. I specifically said that the Obama administration ruled that Muslim truck drivers can not be forced to abandon their religion at work (I agree 100% with that ruling. But why then, are Christian bakers forced to abandon their religious beliefs at work?

Whatever you thing you caught me in, you didn't. I know full well what protections the Obama administration gave to the Muslim truck drivers. My question is, why do they have more rights than the Christian baker.

I told you to take your time, maybe you rushed it. So take all the time you need, and let me know why the Christian baker doesn't get the same protections as the Muslim truck driver.

I know full well what protections the Obama administration gave to the Muslim truck drivers. why are you posting BS again please show me where you got that ...




no time needed ... The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker and a court in favor of the muslims where's your argument ?

and once again your comparing 2 separate incidents employer and worker and owner and customer but you love to see everything thru the same lens

That federal statute is not applicable to the Sweet Cakes by Melissa or Kim Davis cases, as they didn’t involve a relationship between an employer and an employee, so neither was related to worker protections under the Civil Rights Act.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know full well what protections the Obama administration gave to the Muslim truck drivers. why are you posting BS again please show me where you got that ...




no time needed ... The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker and a court in favor of the muslims where's your argument ?

and once again your comparing 2 separate incidents employer and worker and owner and customer but you love to see everything thru the same lens

That federal statute is not applicable to the Sweet Cakes by Melissa or Kim Davis cases, as they didn’t involve a relationship between an employer and an employee, so neither was related to worker protections under the Civil Rights Act.

"why are you posting BS again please show me where you got that ..."

Just because YOU aren't aware of something, doesn't make it BS. We could fill the Pacific Ocean with things that neither you nor I are aware of.

Here you go. When Obama was president, two Muslim truck drivers were fired for refusing to deliver alcohol. Obama's Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), sued the truck/distributor company, and got a big cash settlement for the truck drivers.

Here is what the lawyer for the EEOC said about the case...

"Everyone has a right to observe his or her religious beliefs, and employers don't get to pick and choose which religions and which religious practices they will accommodate"

Please read that statement carefully. That is a statement made by the Obama administration. How can that same protection possibly not apply to the Christian baker who believes that working for a gay wedding violates his beliefs? Why does the Muslim have religious liberty that the Christian doesn't have? The lawyer used the term "everyone". Are Christians part of that everyone, or not?

I agree 100% with what the EEOC did in this case. Where I disagree with liberals, is that I happen to think that the Bill of Rights applies the same way to Christians, as it does to Muslims.

What do you think?

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...eliver-alcohol

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"why are you posting BS again please show me where you got that ..."

Just because YOU aren't aware of something, doesn't make it BS. We could fill the Pacific Ocean with things that neither you nor I are aware of.

Here you go. When Obama was president, two Muslim truck drivers were fired for refusing to deliver alcohol. Obama's Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), sued the truck/distributor company, and got a big cash settlement for the truck drivers.

Here is what the lawyer for the EEOC said about the case...

"Everyone has a right to observe his or her religious beliefs, and employers don't get to pick and choose which religions and which religious practices they will accommodate"

Please read that statement carefully. That is a statement made by the Obama administration. How can that same protection possibly not apply to the Christian baker who believes that working for a gay wedding violates his beliefs? Why does the Muslim have religious liberty that the Christian doesn't have? The lawyer used the term "everyone". Are Christians part of that everyone, or not?

I agree 100% with what the EEOC did in this case. Where I disagree with liberals, is that I happen to think that the Bill of Rights applies the same way to Christians, as it does to Muslims.

What do you think?

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...eliver-alcohol

Very simple the two are not the same no matter how hard you try to suggest that they are.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Very simple the two are not the same no matter how hard you try to suggest that they are.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

No two situations are exactly identical. I never said they were.

That's a cop out. Please explain why the Muslim truck drivers are entitled to stay consistent with their religious beliefs while at work, but the Christian baker is not.

You're right, they are different. In one case, the injured party represents a group sympathetic to your side. In the other case, the injured party doesn't. And that's what matters.

The Obama official said that "everyone" is entitled to religious freedom at work. He didn't say "everyone who is Muslim truck driver forced to transport alcholol".

You are coming across as someone unable to admit that his side is ever wrong about anything.