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03-11-2019, 05:47 PM
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Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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03-11-2019, 06:19 PM
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Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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if she was broke from medical
expenses, then can’t i make a case that conservative FL is
friendlier to those suffering economic hardship, than liberal NY? Liberal CT is a lot closer to NY than FL is.
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03-11-2019, 06:43 PM
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if she was broke from medical
expenses, then can’t i make a case that conservative FL is
friendlier to those suffering economic hardship, than liberal NY? Liberal CT is a lot closer to NY than FL is.
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Maybe, but hen again we could revisit federal fund distribution to low tax states...
Of course, she might not have moved in the first place if she wasn’t broke from medical costs....
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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I will add, I have no idea why she moved, if she is broke. I haven’t followed a bit of this story nor do I really care much about AOC. I was playing devils advocate with the threads posted here....
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03-11-2019, 06:55 PM
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Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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You have a pretty good point here.
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03-11-2019, 07:02 PM
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This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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03-11-2019, 07:03 PM
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You have a pretty good point here.
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Doesn’t happen often...
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-11-2019, 07:15 PM
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This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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Or in the case of Florida they’re under water.
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03-11-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
I will add, I have no idea why she moved, if she is broke. I haven’t followed a bit of this story nor do I really care much about AOC. I was playing devils advocate with the threads posted here....
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03-11-2019, 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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03-11-2019, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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Liberals moving to conservative states are not becoming conservative most are retired and bringing their liberal values with them
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03-11-2019, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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Let me know how that goes...
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03-12-2019, 08:06 AM
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Liberals moving to conservative states are not becoming conservative most are retired and bringing their liberal values with them
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WDMSO, I know that, and that's what's ironic. When a liberal moves across the country from NY for FL because they can no longer afford to live in NY but can easily afford to live in FL, they don't usually convert to conservative.
But why don't they?
They uprooted themselves because they can't afford liberalism, and they go to a conservative state where they can easily afford to live.
How is that not proof, that conservatism is more likely to work for people who aren't wealthy?
If I had to flee liberalism for economic reasons, how stupid would I have to be, to still claim that liberalism works? It's hilarious! |
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03-12-2019, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
WDMSO, I know that, and that's what's ironic. When a liberal moves across the country from NY for FL because they can no longer afford to live in NY but can easily afford to live in FL, they don't usually convert to conservative.
But why don't they?
They uprooted themselves because they can't afford liberalism, and they go to a conservative state where they can easily afford to live.
How is that not proof, that conservatism is more likely to work for people who aren't wealthy?
If I had to flee liberalism for economic reasons, how stupid would I have to be, to still claim that liberalism works? It's hilarious!
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Your out if touch liberals are leaving after making money and having worked jobs that have provide the means to do so. And the more moderate weather.
No one is fleeing liberal states as you suggest for jobs or housing or better schools or just for less taxes .. that’s your fantasy
Have people moved for those reasons I am sure some have ... it both directions
The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6
No ones moving to save 3%
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03-12-2019, 11:06 AM
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Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox
AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination
Talk about hand feeding the base
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03-12-2019, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox
AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination
Talk about hand feeding the base
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The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz. |
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03-12-2019, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Your out if touch liberals are leaving after making money and having worked jobs that have provide the means to do so. And the more moderate weather.
No one is fleeing liberal states as you suggest for jobs or housing or better schools or just for less taxes .. that’s your fantasy
Have people moved for those reasons I am sure some have ... it both directions
The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6
No ones moving to save 3%
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I'm not talking about wealthy liberals who want to retire and play golf every day. I'm talking about people who literally can't afford to live in liberal states, who move to conservative states which are cheaper, and they can't connect the dots.
Is that really going too fast for you? You don't seem to have any idea what I find funny. Presumably, you're a person who can never, ever admit that liberalism has flaws.
"The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6
No ones moving to save 3%"
No one spends 100% of their income, on things that are subject to state sales tax either. So the savings is way, way more than 3%. Also, you can't compare TN to "average" tax rates, compare it to "average liberal" tax rates, you'll see the savings. People aren't moving from TX to TN for taxes. But they are moving from CT to TN for taxes.
I did the math to help my brother figure out what he'd save by moving his family and business from CT to the suburbs of Nashville. He saved a fortune, and he'd tell you the quality of life is better. |
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03-12-2019, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox
AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination
Talk about hand feeding the base
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I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".
WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless". |
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03-12-2019, 01:37 PM
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The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz.
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03-12-2019, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".
WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless".
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Ummm...She's......like....so smukking fart...
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03-12-2019, 02:23 PM
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she is something. accused trump of funding the wall but “zero” for opioids”. Except for the $6 billion that was recently allocated for fighting opioids.
so according to liberal math:
6,000,000,000 < 0.
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03-12-2019, 02:45 PM
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-12-2019, 03:00 PM
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Actually that’s an old Russian joke.
Probably Trump got from Putin and had a minion write the meme
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03-12-2019, 03:13 PM
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03-12-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".
WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless".
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You and fox and republicans are running around like chicken little yelling the sky is falling. Because of 1 new no power lawmaker. Making claims that don’t exist... the end of captlalism
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03-12-2019, 05:51 PM
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The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz.
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It’s clear what the man behind the curtain at fox is selling
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03-12-2019, 06:54 PM
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Can you fact check before you post. And if you don’t care, just don’t post.
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03-12-2019, 07:17 PM
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You and fox and republicans are running around like chicken little yelling the sky is falling. Because of 1 new no power lawmaker. Making claims that don’t exist... the end of captlalism
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the gop
is winning, the sky’s not falling. can you answer my questions please?
who is making
false
claims? you. i never said the
end of capitalism.. i said that cortez claimed that capitalism
is irredeemable, and she did. are you denying she said that?
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03-12-2019, 07:54 PM
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Can you fact check before you post. And if you don’t care, just don’t post.
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You mean she didn't really say that??? Next you're going to tell me that the Vulcans aren't really in danger.
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03-12-2019, 09:06 PM
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Spence, you work in Finance, and the most influential democrat in DC said that capitalism is irredeemable. Do you have no comment?
Here’s a hint. When Trump says stupid things, you think that means he’s a stupid person. When Trump says awful things, you think that means Trump is an awful person.
But let me guess! In this case, she just misspoke, and/or was taken out of context? But nothing she says, says anything about the kind of person she is?
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