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Old 03-13-2019, 01:54 AM   #1
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Spence, you work in Finance, and the most influential democrat in DC said that capitalism is irredeemable. Do you have no comment?

Here’s a hint. When Trump says stupid things, you think that means he’s a stupid person. When Trump says awful things, you think that means Trump is an awful person.

But let me guess! In this case, she just misspoke, and/or was taken out of context? But nothing she says, says anything about the kind of person she is?
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isn’t exactly the democratic party’s knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, she’s no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. That’s why she’s one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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strange obsessions with fox....I believe there are many more leftist viewers of fox than righties...it fuels leftist anger....I've become a big fan of NPR..it's like when SNL used to be funny

I still love her....AOC2020
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:46 AM   #3
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isn’t exactly the democratic party’s knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, she’s no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. That’s why she’s one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didn’t say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!
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I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!
My wife and I have determined that we could move to Bedford or Brookline NH, get the same exact house we have now, better public schools, and save about $900 a month, and that's WITHOUT tolls in CT, which are coming (every 6 miles on every highway is the latest proposal). So if I can bring myself to move somehow, AND I get my 1,000 a month from Andrew Yang, I'm looking good, I can get that 23 foot regulator.
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didn’t say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, you’re s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think she’s the most influential person in that party right now.
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, you’re s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think she’s the most influential person in that party right now.
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When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.
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When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.
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Never called you an idiot
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Remember Jim is arguing against himself. There’s at least a half dozen inaccuracies even in just the post you quoted.
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Remember Jim is arguing against himself. There’s at least a half dozen inaccuracies even in just the post you quoted.
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how about pointing them out, with corrections?
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ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now
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ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now
Her Green New Deal is a suicide pact. And I believe that every democrat running for POTUS, has igned onto it. They can't stand up to her, none of them.
None are willing to even disagree with her.

AOC is God's gift to Trump. She really is. A dingbat like that is the mouthpiece for her party, her generation, and quite possibly for space aliens.
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she is without a doubt, the
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Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-...ortez-profile/

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Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-...ortez-profile/
did you see her tell the ceo of
Wels Fargo, that he’s responsible for everything done by anyone his bank gives money to? If wells fargo gives me a car loan, and i kill a pedestrian with the car, is wells fargo responsible? She thinks they are! That’s exactly how stupid she is. that’s not an exaggeration, and she’s on the finance and banking committee. Hooray!
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Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-...ortez-profile/
Time didn’t do one on Dan Crenshaw?
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.
What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?
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What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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He's got nothin.
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He's got nothin.
defending her is a rough proposition.

Biden teasing at running. I think he’s their best shot.
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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So if you can't dispute, you discredit, and not by facts but merely by spouting some unverified nor well thought out opinion. Your not exactly an original thinker. Could you point out to me the source that feeds me narratives? I'd like to acquaint myself with that genius.
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clearly FOX as directed by the Koch brothers is feeding you two the narrative which you then cut and paste here like good little racists... Politics hasn't been this much fun in a long time and I think it's only going to get better
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it’s very easy to say i’m thoughtlessly swallowing a narrative. how about telling me exactly where and why i’m wrong?

i explained why i say she’s the
most influential democrat. She has a massive following, and no matter how catastrophically stupid hernideas are, all the presidential contenders race to be the first to embrace them.

how is that wrong, exactly? you can’t make your point by saying i’m wrong. Show me i’m wrong.
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