Conflicting regulations

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by beamie

The law wants to lock you up, but you're not a criminal. It really gets frustrating.

Just like Mass. firearms laws, making law abiding citizens into felons because it's too difficult to apprehend, charge, prosecute,convict, sentence and imprison the actual criminals so they go after low hanging fruit. Lazy Authoritarian power hungry Statists, screw them. I just mind my own business.

We all want the fishery to be a success and maintain a good population of striped bass, the regulators only want maximum sustainable yield.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We all want the fishery to be a success and maintain a good population of striped bass, the regulators only want maximum sustainable yield.

Just FYI the ASMFC does not manage stripers for MSY.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Just FYI the ASMFC does not manage stripers for MSY.

You are right. They way the manage them is Unsustainable.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Just FYI the ASMFC does not manage stripers for MSY.

Originally Posted by zimmy

You are right. They way the manage them is Unsustainable.

Yup.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

We all want the fishery to be a success and maintain a good population of striped bass, the regulators only want maximum sustainable yield.

By the way, technically, Makomike is correct when he says asmfc doesn't manage for Maximum Sustainable Yield. After an old thread, I dug into the details deeper since I didn't really follow the specific details much after I finished grad work around 03.

The reality: up to 2013, the target mortality was F=0.3, which was based on a MSY of F=0.34. They also included target spawning stock levels, relative to the 1995 levels. They ended up with two conflicting targets. The mortality target was for all intents and purposes, basically just under MSY. In 2013, they adjusted (lowered) the target mortality after it became apparent to themthat the regulations conflicted and, one might assume (a decade later than many of us) , were not sustainable. As I noted in that other thread, as of a year ago, some members of the commission believe that we are currently under harvesting.
And here we are...