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Old 04-27-2019, 09:15 AM   #1
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Is it the same research that informed you that tuition is the cheapest part of college? Because that must be some type of source that keeps you up to date.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:39 AM   #2
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Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.

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Old 04-28-2019, 07:35 AM   #3
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So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.
its called the cost of college.. I can't help that you see listing one price against listing another another price and comparing the 2 or because its a State school as disegunious.. for my experience tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...


most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. that's great but that would be wrong ..
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:58 AM   #4
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tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...

wouldn't tuition, books and credit hours be one piece

and living and food be another as the first are mandatory for a college education the second is something you choose to do if you want the college to feed and water and house your student...there are options
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1166344]Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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Silly me
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Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
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*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.

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What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
Number of schools to show 1 of 1 Pages Prev Next
*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.

Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford
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Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford
I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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Not exactly sure how I should read that?
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Not exactly sure how I should read that?
I probably. Read it the same way as you.
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Dude, it's "I probably, read it the same way as you."

Step it up.
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