Barr testimony

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

I think it's over 400 now.

"But Alan Dershowisz said..."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

"But Alan Dershowisz said..."

You are confusing the collusion with the obstruction. Understandable, it’s hard to distinguish one liberal hissy fit from the next.

Dershowitz feels the push for the collusion probe ( have we forgotten about this already?) may have been purely political. i say, let’s find out. The probe was to see if Trump broke the law by colluding with Russia, and there’s insufficient evidence he did.

Whether or not Trump obstructed, is distinct. if he did, let’s impeach him. i see that even among house democrats, only the radical fringe is talking about impeachment. I presume there is a reason why Pelosi isnt on board.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

let’s impeach him.

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please let it happen!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You are confusing the collusion with the obstruction.

Glad you are now referring to both in the affirmative.

Dershowitz feels the push for the collusion probe ( have we forgotten about this already?) may have been purely political. i say, let’s find out. The probe was to see if Trump broke the law by colluding with Russia, and there’s insufficient evidence he did.

The probe was launched to see if members of the campaign had links or coordination with Russia along with any other crimes that were a result of the investigation. In advance of the special council's appointment they already had evidence this was a possibility and needed to be investigated. There's just too much there there to claim this was a hit job.

Whether or not Trump obstructed, is distinct. if he did, let’s impeach him. i see that even among house democrats, only the radical fringe is talking about impeachment. I presume there is a reason why Pelosi isnt on board.

Pelosi is just hedging because isn't likely to move past the House and Trump is very good at playing the victim card. Even you buy his lies and spin.

New polls show 60% think Trump lied about the investigation and now 47% of Republicans say the'd consider a challenger for the nomination. Not good numbers.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Pelosi is just hedging

pelosi is insane

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

The probe was launched to see if members of the campaign had links or coordination with Russia along with any other crimes that were a result of the investigation. In advance of the special council's appointment they already had evidence this was a possibility and needed to be investigated. There's just too much there there to claim this was a hit job.

And how many people were indicted for actions related to the collusion? Z-E-R-O. Boy, there must have been a lot "there".

There's also a possibility that some DOJ and FBI officials had their thumbs on the scales, that also needs to be investigated.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And how many people were indicted for actions related to the collusion? Z-E-R-O. Boy, there must have been a lot "there".

Yea, well over 100 secret contacts with Russians. In every instance Trump or his people lied to the voters and the FBI. 100+ charges, 30+ indictments, guilty pleas and prison time.

You keep trying to move the goal posts Jim. Your standard for proper behavior is pretty low.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You keep trying to move the goal posts Jim.

absolutely hilarious after that answer....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Yea, well over 100 secret contacts with Russians. In every instance Trump or his people lied to the voters and the FBI. 100+ charges, 30+ indictments, guilty pleas and prison time.

You keep trying to move the goal posts Jim. Your standard for proper behavior is pretty low.

i’m not moving any goal posts.
i’m responding to your statement that there was a lot there. no there wasn’t, not if that exhaustive of an investigation led to zero indictments.

contacts with russians, is evidence of a crime, for a presidential candidate? i think everyone who has ever won a nomination, would
tell you that everyone wants to meet with you. Sure some meetings are unethical.

“ your standard for proper behavior is pretty low.”

Nope. you’re just not used to seeing someone apply the standard equally to both sides. Sure as hell not what you do.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m not moving any goal posts.
i’m responding to your statement that there was a lot there. no there wasn’t, not if that exhaustive of an investigation led to zero indictments

34 indictments isn't zero, it's a huge pile. If all those Trump campaign members didn't think they were doing something wrong why would they lie to the feds about it?

If Trump didn't think he was doing anything wrong why would he repeatedly work to obstruct justice?

Seriously, you have an administration that universally acted in a duplicitous manner, encouraged illegal behavior for personal gain, colluded with adversaries for personal gain, habitually lied to the American people, tried to obstruct the investigation into their behavior and is still working to obstruct investigations into their behavior.

Anyone got a flag to hug?