Poll on tech stocks and politics

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Do you think that the Silicon Valley based high tech industry stocks are playing political games with their content? I am talking about the FAANG stocks as a class, though not exclusively. Are they exercising censorship over their content? Yes or no?

Clearly.

Some censorship is necessary, obviously you want to prevent child trafficking. But like in the media, there's an obvious political bias.

[Pete F.]

No, and be careful what you wish for.
Each one of those companies has a user agreement that allows you to post and if you violate their terms you get kicked out, etc.
Perhaps some think that government should be able to tell businesses who to bake a cake for, or not?



Perhaps this is fake news from Fox

"It’s true that some right-of-center users have been suspended or banned from Twitter, put in “Facebook jail,” or had their videos or channels pulled from YouTube. However, in fairness, it’s also true that liberal Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has had some of her content pulled from Facebook and that the company inadvertently labeled every ad with LGBT in it as political, whether it was or not."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No, and be careful what you wish for.
Each one of those companies has a user agreement that allows you to post and if you violate their terms you get kicked out, etc.
Perhaps some think that government should be able to tell businesses who to bake a cake for, or not?



Perhaps this is fake news from Fox

"It’s true that some right-of-center users have been suspended or banned from Twitter, put in “Facebook jail,” or had their videos or channels pulled from YouTube. However, in fairness, it’s also true that liberal Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has had some of her content pulled from Facebook and that the company inadvertently labeled every ad with LGBT in it as political, whether it was or not."

so if liz warren got suspended, that means there’s no bias? that's as stupid as me saying obama was potus, therefore there’s no such thing as racism.

to determine bias, you have to look at everything, not one persons experience.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so if liz warren got suspended, that means there’s no bias? that's as stupid as me saying obama was potus, therefore there’s no such thing as racism.

to determine bias, you have to look at everything, not one persons experience.
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Hey, call Fox if you think they are reporting fake news, I already know they do.

Actually, any search engine ‘bias’ is not down to conscious decisions by the search engine - it’s simply due to the way they all work.

They rank pages based on what real people find useful and what other, real websites link to. Their evil goal is to make money for their shareholders by showing the most useful results, thus increasing their market share and their ad revenues.

They use a math equation to rank the entire volume of content it has indexed, which is pretty much the entire world wide web. Math equations do not have political opinions.

There is no algorithm at Google or Bing that takes politics into account. If you see what you deem to be biased results, it is due to authoritative sites linking to websites which pushes them higher up search.

Authoritative websites are places like Universities (which tend to favour evidence-based research) and media organisations. Most of the rest of what puts a site at the top of a search engine is how users interact with it - do they find the result useful? This could show a bias because people have opinions - more people might click on one result that they agree with more than the other.

Autocomplete is not bias either. It is based on what people actually search - search engines do not just decide what goes in the autocomplete list arbitrarily.

So, in a sense search engines are unintentionally biased towards what the majority think, because this is what powers their results. There is no conspiracy, however

Now, if you think there is a demand for right-biased search engines, support one like Searchconservative.com , they derate anything that might be liberal, it will give you the answers you want to hear. They have one add or they are owned by Judicial Watch. Better send them money.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Hey, call Fox if you think they are reporting fake news, I already know they do.

Actually, any search engine ‘bias’ is not down to conscious decisions by the search engine - it’s simply due to the way they all work.

They rank pages based on what real people find useful and what other, real websites link to. Their evil goal is to make money for their shareholders by showing the most useful results, thus increasing their market share and their ad revenues.

They use a math equation to rank the entire volume of content it has indexed, which is pretty much the entire world wide web. Math equations do not have political opinions.

There is no algorithm at Google or Bing that takes politics into account. If you see what you deem to be biased results, it is due to authoritative sites linking to websites which pushes them higher up search.

Authoritative websites are places like Universities (which tend to favour evidence-based research) and media organisations. Most of the rest of what puts a site at the top of a search engine is how users interact with it - do they find the result useful? This could show a bias because people have opinions - more people might click on one result that they agree with more than the other.

Autocomplete is not bias either. It is based on what people actually search - search engines do not just decide what goes in the autocomplete list arbitrarily.

So, in a sense search engines are unintentionally biased towards what the majority think, because this is what powers their results. There is no conspiracy, however

Now, if you think there is a demand for right-biased search engines, support one like Searchconservative.com , they derate anything that might be liberal, it will give you the answers you want to hear. They have one add or they are owned by Judicial Watch. Better send them money.

hannity reports all kinds of fake news. he’s an outlier. at cnn and msnbc, arent they all like
hannity?

again, you can’t disprove bias by pointing to one example of unbiased censorship. that’s not how logic works.

If you don’t think there’s liberal
bias anywhere, you are entitled to that opinion.

the op asked about google
and facebook. there’s clear evidence of bias, and god knows how many stories of employees admitting the bias.

as tdf said, the
media has been biased for years, they lost most of their credibility during the Bush and Obama
years. So it’s natural that digital
media would
be equally biased.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

hannity reports all kinds of fake news. he’s an outlier. at cnn and msnbc, arent they all like
hannity? ALL, like Hannity?

again, you can’t disprove bias by pointing to one example of unbiased censorship. that’s not how logic works.



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First of all, the original poster asked specifically about FAANG, which is Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google.
None of which are news reporting organizations that TDF brought into the thread.
Citing one source that is quite biased and that obviously has no idea how a search engine works or how SEO works is hardly unbiased.

https://www.polemicdigital.com/googl...gle-algorithm/

Barry Adams who wrote that is a Brit and doesn't have a horse in this race, though he might be among the 90% of Brits who don't like Trump. He does explain how bias does creep into search engines and there is nothing diabolical about it.

But keep believing Jim, the fake media is lying and all Trump says is true. Just ask him about the secret Mexican deal, it's so secret even the Mexicans don't know about it.

[scottw]

Pete...you remind me of Hannity

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

First of all, the original poster asked specifically about FAANG, which is Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix and Google.
None of which are news reporting organizations that TDF brought into the thread.

I included a couple of links in case you want to stay informed.

https://news.google.com/?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

https://www.apple.com/apple-news/

I keep forgetting you don't watch TV
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But like in the media, there's an obvious political bias.

Says Jim and Trump with zero evidence. Moth to the flame.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Says Jim and Trump with zero evidence. Moth to the flame.
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yeah that's me i never question what trump says.

Spence, is there a liberal
bias in academia and the mainstream media? i offer
no proof, yet i claim there is. Do you deny that?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Says Jim and Trump with zero evidence. Moth to the flame.
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if you search online, you’ll see plenty of evidence.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/google-...ervative-bias/
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if you search online, you’ll see plenty of evidence.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/google-...ervative-bias/
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I can’t believe you seriously posted this.
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