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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

which means republicans don't believe in higher education??

They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

evidence please?

we don’t enthusiastically endorse waste or indoctrination. education, yes.

which side opposes school
choice, can you remind me, i forgot?

to democrats, “supporting education” means giving more
money to teachers unions, so that much of that money will
get donated to democratic political campaigns. But it doesn’t necessarily improve the quality of the education being offered.

Spending more, isn’t necessarily the same thing, as supporting education.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

evidence please?look at where the majority of the great schools are - left leaning states.

we don’t enthusiastically endorse waste or indoctrination. education, yes.

which side opposes school
choice, can you remind me, i forgot? You mean segregationist schools? That is not supporting education, that is trying to take $ from public schools.

to democrats, “supporting education” means giving more
money to teachers unions, so that much of that money will
get donated to democratic political campaigns. But it doesn’t necessarily improve the quality of the education being offered.

Spending more, isn’t necessarily the same thing, as supporting education.
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Your right spending more isn't necessarily the same thing as supporting education but it is a very good proxy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Your right spending more isn't necessarily the same thing as supporting education but it is a very good proxy.

the best schools are private schools. i’m not sure that because they happen to be located in states that today are liberal, means anything. some
of them are hundreds of years old, so i’m not sure todays political climate in those states, is why those schools were built there. but that’s what you are suggesting?

show me the evidence that spending is any kind of proxy. Here in CT, we spend
more than 14k per kid in my town ( southington). schools are pretty good. the catholic school
costs 5k per year, and has much higher test scores.

there is almost zero correlation between spending and student performance. student performance is largely determined in the home. i was a public schoolteacher for a brief time, i come from a family of
many public schoolteachers. money has almost nothing to do with it, especially when 90% of
an education budget goes to teachers salaries, healthcare, and pensions. Students don’t know or care about that stuff. that does almost nothing to improve test scores.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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Don't you think that has something to do with being able to accept who they want, put certain requirements on the students/parents, charge tuition (or more tuition) which limits the pool to a certain type of people and not have to educate every student - even those who aren't invested in their education?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Don't you think that has something to do with being able to accept who they want, put certain requirements on the students/parents, charge tuition (or more tuition) which limits the pool to a certain type of people and not have to educate every student - even those who aren't invested in their education?

yes it has something to
do with that.

but spending money isn’t always the answer. if i’m a teacher at a crappy school
in hartford, and next year i get a fat raise and cheaper health insurance, how does that help my students perform better? because i’m any municipal education budget, that’s where all the money goes. because the unions control the politicians, at least here in CT. when you have to cut things like art and music, and lay-off non tenured teachers to satisfy union contracts, i don’t see how that helps students. do you?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yes it has something to
do with that.

but spending money isn’t always the answer. if i’m a teacher at a crappy school
in hartford, and next year i get a fat raise and cheaper health insurance, how does that help my students perform better? because i’m any municipal education budget, that’s where all the money goes. because the unions control the politicians, at least here in CT. when you have to cut things like art and music, and lay-off non tenured teachers to satisfy union contracts, i don’t see how that helps students. do you?
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I agree $ isn't the always the answer and with your example it may not help the students. However, if you can attract better teachers bc of higher pay/benefits that would benefit the students. There are many states that don't fund the teacher salaries adequately and that was reflected in the strikes last year. Some of the teachers were making like $35K and hadn't had raises in a few years.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

this is just dumb

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is just dumb

Are you channeling your inner SD?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Are you channeling your inner SD?

just being honest

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

just being honest

but you sound so snarky and really are not adding anything other than what seems like an attempt to annoy. Not one of them is a good quality.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

but you sound so snarky

you really need to expand your vocabulary

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

you really need to expand your vocabulary

Why use a different word every time to describe the same actions?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is just dumb

Proving it to those who don’t pay attention. Not a bright bulb here.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Proving it to those who don’t pay attention. Not a bright bulb here.
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As usual, nothing intelligent to add. Any time you want to compare education or income, let me know

It must be a struggle in your daily life.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Any time you want to compare education or income, let me know

ohhhh....gloves off!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

ohhhh....gloves off!

Why should I take anything from a troll?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

As usual, nothing intelligent to add. Any time you want to compare education or income, let me know

It must be a struggle in your daily life.

I would be happy to compare. Will I need to provide tax returns?
No need to lash out at me just for calling you out after another thoughtless post Paul.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I would be happy to compare. Will I need to provide tax returns?
No need to lash out at me just for calling you out after another thoughtless post Paul.
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We can compare anything you want. You just rarely show any intelligence. It is usually just snide comments and insults without ever trying to add anything to the discussion. I'm not sure if it due to a feeling of inferiority or what. I'm not lashing out, I'm just responding to your constant insults in this forum. Why should I take your constant childish insults?

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

We can compare anything you want. You just rarely show any intelligence. It is usually just snide comments and insults without ever trying to add anything to the discussion. I'm not sure if it due to a feeling of inferiority or what. I'm not lashing out, I'm just responding to your constant insults in this forum. Why should I take your constant childish insults?

If you apologize for your stupidity I will consider backing off. Otherwise, continue saying dumb stuff and get called out.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I would be happy to compare. Will I need to provide tax returns?
No need to lash out at me just for calling you out after another thoughtless post Paul.
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Originally Posted by PaulS

We can compare anything you want. You just rarely show any intelligence. It is usually just snide comments and insults without ever trying to add anything to the discussion. I'm not sure if it due to a feeling of inferiority or what. I'm not lashing out, I'm just responding to your constant insults in this forum. Why should I take your constant childish insults?

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