Children as chess pieces

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm paying enough attention to know this isn't true.

it’s over 100,000 a month who are caught. what should we do with that number?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm paying enough attention to know this isn't true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/cros...-year-ago.html
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a little old and not a lot of data, but...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Immigration turned into a political wedge issue to divide the country leading to an inability or unwillingness of our elected leaders to address the issues. Trump didn't invent the problem but he sure as hell has made it a lot worse.

it’s trumps fault that we’re seeing a surge in the
number of families as a percentage of people crossing?

Spence, what should he have done, when faced with all
these families? where would
you have told him to put them?
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[FormerUser]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You would get better treatment as a prisoner of war, then the children being held at Trumps “summer camps” for immigrant children.

You're really going to compare POWs and immigrant children?

I'd call you a complete and total retard except that would be an insult to to retarded people.

You have some serious mental issues to even make that comparison.From every vet out there here's a big GO EFF YOURSELF!

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by basswipe

You're really going to compare POWs and immigrant children?

I'd call you a complete and total retard except that would be an insult to to retarded people.

You have some serious mental issues to even make that comparison.From every vet out there here's a big GO EFF YOURSELF!

Go read the guidelines of the Geneva convention and tell me then these kids aren’t been denied some of the basics. Here is just a snippet for those that like to throw insults without understanding the point of my post. Have a good day, I won’t get down to that level to exchange insults.

POWs must be treated humanely in all circumstances. They are protected against any act of violence, as well as against intimidation, insults, and public curiosity. IHL also defines minimum conditions of detention covering such issues as accommodation, food, clothing, hygiene and medical care.
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[Got Stripers]

Never debated or denied there are many (not sure anyone has quantified) kids here that were brought here under questionably circumstances, doesn’t change the fact some 3000 have been separated and are living in deplorable circumstances. Trump is ok giving money to farmers to make up for the hurt he put on them due to tariffs or rob other funds to build the wall, I’m pretty sure a lot could have been done well before this point if he and his GOP boot lickers gave a damn.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Never debated or denied there are many (not sure anyone has quantified) kids here that were brought here under questionably circumstances, doesn’t change the fact some 3000 have been separated and are living in deplorable circumstances. Trump is ok giving money to farmers to make up for the hurt he put on them due to tariffs or rob other funds to build the wall, I’m pretty sure a lot could have been done well before this point if he and his GOP boot lickers gave a damn.
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you’re pretty sure a lot
could have been done. how
about instead of a wall, we
build a 1,500 mile
long day care center?

where would
you put them? whats the alternative?
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[Got Stripers]

Look at numbers from past administrations and today, the difference is Trump and policy, stats can’t lie like Trump. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck; guess what it’s a duck.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Look at numbers from past administrations and today, the difference is Trump and policy, stats can’t lie like Trump. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck; guess what it’s a duck.
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how is it trumps doing, that immigrant crossings are up? i thought he was attacking our democratic institutions, and according to you, he was weakening our global status? if he has turned america into a brutal dictatorship, and an
international laughingstock, why are more people
risking everything to come here?

can’t have it both ways, GS...
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how is it trumps doing, that immigrant crossings are up? i thought he was attacking our democratic institutions, and according to you, he was weakening our global status? if he has turned america into a brutal dictatorship, and an
international laughingstock, why are more people
risking everything to come here?

can’t have it both ways, GS...
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Are you really arguing his policies haven’t contributed to this situation? Additionally I started this thread not to debate cause but to call out this administration for doing nothing to address this and it’s been a long time since this has been a problem.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Are you really arguing his policies haven’t contributed to this situation? Additionally I started this thread not to debate cause but to call out this administration for doing nothing to address this and it’s been a long time since this has been a problem.
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what policies has trump
enacted, which would
encourage more illegals to come? i keep hearing that Trump is a xenophobe. now you’re saying he’s encouraging more to
come here.

wait, maybe he hates them so
much that he encourages them
to come, so that he can intern the children in concentration camps? is that it? he’s luring them
here, just to brutalize them?

there’s
no reason why these people
can’t have toothpaste. as to showers? sorry, some
months we catch over 100,000 of them. we don’t have facilities to hold that many people
where they can shower daily and be comfortable. no such facility exists, and would take.a long time
to build it.

where would
you put them?

trump did nothing to address it? you’re right he should have gotten the wall when the gop controlled congress.
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[Jim in CT]

I’ve asked the TDS sufferers here what the alternative is, where should we put the tens of thousands of people
we catch every month. i keep asking that obvious question, i haven’t seen a syllable in terms of a response.

newsflash..:if you have no better alternative, that means he’s making the best of a rotten situation. and one that the parents, not our president, created.
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[Jim in CT]

by the way, dna tests have shown that about one third of the children who cross, are not related to the adults they cross with. these are fake families, sometimes
with rented children to give the adults a better shot at being allowed to stay. is it a good idea to leave children with adults who
would exploit them this way?

this is a sick situation, it shouldn’t be political. Seal
the border, discourage people
from coming illegally, and allow more legal
immigrants. that’s the answer, it’s not partisan, it’s not complicated, it’s not unfair.

our current policies encourage the criminal exploitation of little kids.

https://pluralist.com/dna-tests-reve...ren-unrelated/
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[Sea Dangles]

Clearly the best president of our lifetime. Thank him for your good nights rest snowflakes.
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[Got Stripers]

Yup a man (white Bill Cosby) our children can all look up to🤣
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Yup a man (white Bill Cosby) our children can all look up to🤣
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we didn’t elect him to
be a role model, but to improve things. hard to deny that things are better now.

when i was at aetna, we had a CEO who was well known to be a world class pr*ck. but he was a terrific CEO.
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[Got Stripers]

We didn’t elect him and by that I mean I didn’t vote for a man with no morals, someone with a history of screwing others for personal gain, a pig and sexual predator, narcissist to the extreme, habitual lier, a man incapable of treating anyone with respect, the negative descriptive adjectives are endless; I voted for the lesser evil. If this is the new norm we are in deep s*hit, if nothing about the means troubles you, then feel free to ignore the wrong to get that good feeling about the economy. Trump island isn’t as good as you think it is, nor is the robust economy all his doing, but keep those blinders firmly in place and you will not see anything that disturbs you.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

We didn’t elect him and by that I mean I didn’t vote for a man with no morals, someone with a history of screwing others for personal gain, a pig and sexual predator, narcissist to the extreme, habitual lier, a man incapable of treating anyone with respect, the negative descriptive adjectives are endless; I voted for the lesser evil. If this is the new norm we are in deep s*hit, if nothing about the means troubles you, then feel free to ignore the wrong to get that good feeling about the economy. Trump island isn’t as good as you think it is, nor is the robust economy all his doing, but keep those blinders firmly in place and you will not see anything that disturbs you.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

We didn’t elect him and by that I mean I didn’t vote for a man with no morals, someone with a history of screwing others for personal gain, a pig and sexual predator, narcissist to the extreme, habitual lier, a man incapable of treating anyone with respect, the negative descriptive adjectives are endless; I voted for the lesser evil. If this is the new norm we are in deep s*hit, if nothing about the means troubles you, then feel free to ignore the wrong to get that good feeling about the economy. Trump island isn’t as good as you think it is, nor is the robust economy all his doing, but keep those blinders firmly in place and you will not see anything that disturbs you.
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the choice was between two people
devoid of morals. that was the choice. the only real difference is that hilary isn’t accused of being a sexual predator,?but she married one, lied to defend him, and slut shamed his victims on national tv. if she’s a better role
model, i don’t see it. she’s not as overtly obnoxious as he is, but every bit as corrupt.
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[Sea Dangles]

Sticks and stones now? Go cry a river.
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[Got Stripers]

I call a spade a spade, Trump calls all Mexicans spades, bad hombres, mostly rapists and gang members. Then we have the other immigrants coming from the sh*thole country’s. Then all the lies just endless and what’s more troubling is that his base continues to believe them, like cult members. Love the reporting of numerous ICE agent interviews, where many are longing for the Obama term rules and clarity and ease of dealing with immigrants.
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[Got Stripers]

Your as predictable as he is, insults and disrespectful behavior. If you like government to be run like The Apprentice, staffed by temps, groveling at the shows bosses feet, then you found a spot you fit in.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If you like government to be run like The Apprentice, staffed by temps, groveling at the shows bosses feet, then you found a spot you fit in.
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I don't, but I'm not consumed with permanent TDS and understand that he won, he's the president, and come the next election either he gets re-elected or he doesn't. That's how it works. I realize that, just like every other president, not everything he touches turns to gold nor does everything turn to chit.

I also know that whining like a 3 year old incessantly on a fishing board isn't going to change that fact. Ever since he won the election it's been one looooooong Sky Scream by everybody who didn't like the results. Nothing but labels and name calling.

It's been almost 3 years since the election, the country is still here, I still have my job, and my Family is healthy and happy.

and I'm going to say this one more time, and I'll type slowly so you can keep up.

I.......Didn't.....Vote....For.........Trump

[Nebe]

Isn’t it ironic that the people who call themselves “Pro-life” are the biggest supporters of these child concentration camps.
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[Got Stripers]

See that’s where you are 100% wrong, I’m complaining about the job he is or isn’t doing and ever time I or other do it’s the canned Trumpism; what about Hillary, what about Obama. We complain about the present and others are living in the past.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

See that’s where you are 100% wrong, I’m complaining about the job he is or isn’t doing and ever time I or other do it’s the canned Trumpism; what about Hillary, what about Obama. We complain about the present and others are living in the past.
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and the previous adminstration gave us a steady chorus for 8 years of "What about Bush" on the board. Now they are just getting what they gave.

[Sea Dangles]

I understand not being happy with a president. But yes the daily grind has become nothing more than white noise they emit on a daily basis. How dare his base stick with him has become a battle cry of sorts. They parrot their leaders like Pelosi and Warren...ca caw.
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[JohnR]

I don't like Trump, I did not vote for him, I wrote somebody in. He is is petty, makes bad decisions, and can't keep a full bench. He has done some good things and has done some bad.

I don't think he is worse than Obama. I liked Obama, just don't like his politics and many of his decisions have lasting negative implications.

I will probably vote for Trump in 2020 (can't believe I am saying this) as I have to choose to vote for a vile guy like Trump or for a increasingly Orwellian Democratic party that will disassemble this country, take my rights away, and tax me to death up until the point they get rid of individual rights, free speech, and self protection.

Before all you Leftniks get your panties in a bunch, the Dem's want to eliminate Borders and Border Protection, Abolish ICE and Police, define speech and restrict 2A. I am a Free Speech, Right to Keep and Bear arms, and Due Process Absolutist. Everyone that values individual liberties should be.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Before all you Leftniks get your panties in a bunch, the Dem's want to eliminate Borders and Border Protection, Abolish ICE and Police, define speech and restrict 2A. I am a Free Speech, Right to Keep and Bear arms, and Due Process Absolutist. Everyone that values individual liberties should be.

Oh lord

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

Oh lord

Abolish the police !
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