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07-17-2019, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Do you think Jim was trying to impress you or prove a point? Just asking for a friend.
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Jim was trying desperately to prove a point by citing other horrible things Trump has done.
He likely succeeded in establishing at a minimum that Trump is truly a misogynist, but possibly not a racist.
I think Trump is a Xenophobic bigot.
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07-17-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Jim was trying desperately to prove a point by citing other horrible things Trump has done.
Again, you dip into the bag of your various forms of lying, here you disparage Jim's rational observation by painting it as desperation.
He likely succeeded in establishing at a minimum that Trump is truly a misogynist, but possibly not a racist.
See, that's based on your lying version of misogyny. Saying something negative about a specific woman is not misogynous. And using that lie to squirm out of Jim's "possibly" proving that your lie about Trump being a racist is wrong, is another pathetic attempt to use the moving the goal post lie.
I think Trump is a Xenophobic bigot.
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Of course you do. Can you prove that he is. Or is your mission just to throw the notion out there, hoping it sticks?
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07-17-2019, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Of course you do. Can you prove that he is. Or is your mission just to throw the notion out there, hoping it sticks?
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Trump is married to a foreigner. So if he's a xenophpobe (one who dislikes foreigners), he's not a very good xenophobe, is he.
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07-17-2019, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Of course you do. Can you prove that he is. Or is your mission just to throw the notion out there, hoping it sticks?
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One instance does not make one a misogynist or racist, repeated behavior is needed.
Jim cited numerous examples of Trump denigrating women.
It sticks for most people, without me throwing anything out.
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07-17-2019, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
One instance does not make one a misogynist or racist, repeated behavior is needed.
Jim cited numerous examples of Trump denigrating women.
No, there are billions of specific women on the planet. Many or all of them can have negative things said about them. That would not be misogyny unless they were being disparaged simply because they are women. It's not about the number of women. It's about the nature of the denigration.
Besides, Trump has said many things about many women that are positive and praising. And has promoted various women, including in the workplace. It is obvious, if you're honest and objective, that he is not a misogynist.
It sticks for most people, without me throwing anything out.
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Have you taken a survey of most people?
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07-17-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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Three articles all about the same woman saying the same thing. This is supposed to be a survey of "most people"?
And this woman said that she won’t go as far as to call him a misogynist, and that "he was pretty respectful of me overall."
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07-17-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Three articles all about the same woman saying the same thing. This is supposed to be a survey of "most people"?
And this woman said that she won’t go as far as to call him a misogynist, and that "he was pretty respectful of me overall."
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The survey was a joke, I suppose you honestly thought I'd do a survey just for you. Keep an eye on Trump's tweets if it's close to favorable he'll post the results, though I would check his numbers they are usually a little off in his favor. Just puffery, I'm sure.
Here's a few other excerpts from Barbara Res's interviews. I have seen other former employees interviewed but I don't remember their names. I have yet to see a former employee of Trumps say he would be a great President or even a good one. Google is your friend, feel free to show that is incorrect.
But over the years, I saw him change.
“I think he’s a supreme sexist,” Res said. She won’t go as far as to call him a misogynist, however, although she freely uses another M-word: megalomaniac.
“He’s terribly sexist. He’s a womanizer for sure,” she said. “He hired me for a specific reason: Because I was really good. And he told me, and he believed this, that women had to work harder and be smarter and were willing to work harder than men, and that’s what he wanted, and he had a couple of women working for him… ‘Men are better than women,’ he said, ‘but a good woman is better than 10 men.’ I think he thought I would take it as a compliment, and I think it was intended as a compliment.”
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07-17-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Have you taken a survey of most people?
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Here’s the poll you requested
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...63499364853811
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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07-17-2019, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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I didn't request a poll. And the poll of most Americans that I asked if you had done, was regarding Trump being a misogynist. This poll that you erroneously think (lied a la standards applied to Trump) I requested says that a majority of Americans think that Trump's remarks are offensive. It has no survey about him being a misogynist. Trump doesn't mind being offensive. It seems that he often intends to be so. Often, or usually, it's tit for tat. The four congresswomen in this dispute have been very offensive with comments about Trump before Trump hit back.
Of course, you don't object to offensive remarks about Trump.
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07-17-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Jim was trying desperately to prove a point by citing other horrible things Trump has done.
He likely succeeded in establishing at a minimum that Trump is truly a misogynist, but possibly not a racist.
I think Trump is a Xenophobic bigot.
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I get it,you don’t like Trump and waste no time in displaying such. You read a lot about him and have become an expert at exploiting his actions that offend you. You have never given him his due for any of his accomplishments and like to call him names. So rather than just answering a question with any fairness you contrive ways to call him out at any and every opportunity. You apply rules to him that are acceptable elsewhere and act like you have exposed him. You are suffering mentally under his guidance and it has encompassed your very being. This is TDS and the fishing website is your therapy. You have my pity. But at least you won’t be calling him a racist anymore.
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