Your Stable Genius isn’t Racist

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Therefore, when I criticize her for saying 9/11 was nothing more than "some people did something", it's not possible that I could have a rational, valid reason to criticize that comment.

What you are claiming is incorrect and takes words out of context to prove your point.

Here is the full quote, perhaps you can show what is evil about this.

"Here’s the truth. For far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen and, frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. [The Council on American-Islamic Relations] was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange and that I am trying to make myself look pleasant. You have to say that this person is looking at me strange, I am not comfortable with it, and I am going to talk to them and ask them why. Because that is the right you have."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What you are claiming is incorrect and takes words out of context to prove your point.

Here is the full quote, perhaps you can show what is evil about this.

"Here’s the truth. For far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen and, frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. [The Council on American-Islamic Relations] was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange and that I am trying to make myself look pleasant. You have to say that this person is looking at me strange, I am not comfortable with it, and I am going to talk to them and ask them why. Because that is the right you have."

Is that full quote less offensive? is it less dismissive of the attack?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Is that full quote less offensive? is it less dismissive of the attack?
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Where does this say anything close to what you claim?
What is Un-American or even out of order in this speech?
Is this different than what you would hope people would do?
Or do you think that all Muslims are terrorists?

Muslims for a really long time in this country have been told that there is a privilege, that there is a privilege that we are given, and it might be taken away. We are told that we should be appropriate, we should go to school, get an education, raise our children and not bother anyone, not make any kind of noise. Don’t make anyone uncomfortable — be a good Muslim. But no matter how much we have tried to be the best neighbor, people have always worked on finding a way to not allow for every single civil liberty to be extended to us. So the truth is, you can go to school and be a good student. You can listen to your dad and mom and become a doctor. You can have that beautiful wedding that makes mom and dad happy. You can buy that beautiful house. But none of that stuff matters if you one day show up to the hospital and your wife, or maybe yourself, is having a baby, and you can’t have the access that you need because someone doesn’t recognize you as fully human.

It doesn’t matter how good you were if you can’t have your prayer mat and take your 15-minute break to go pray in a country that was founded on religious liberty. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you one day find yourself in a school where other religions are talked about, but when Islam is mentioned, we are only talking about terrorists. And if you say something, you are sent to the principal’s office. So to me, I say, raise hell; make people uncomfortable.

Because here’s the truth — here’s the truth: For too long, we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. So you can’t just say that today someone is looking at me strange, that I am going to try to make myself look pleasant. You have to say, “This person is looking at me strange. I am not comfortable with it. I am going to go talk to them and ask them why.” Because that is a right you have.

... I say you can’t hate up close. You can’t hate up close. Any time you have an opportunity to go talk with someone, the chances of them hating you lessen. So that is a practice we all should adopt.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Is that full quote less offensive? is it less dismissive of the attack?
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Be honest your upset because she didn't say Muslims did it .. it as easy as that

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Be honest your upset because she didn't say Muslims did it .. it as easy as that

stop speaking for me, you really stink at it.

if she said it was a terrible day and thousands of families were devastated, i’d have been fine with that. i don’t expect that maniac to admit muslims did it. but saying “some people did something” is very trump-like in terms of how unnecessarily offensive and insulting it is. her only concern about 9/11 in that speech, was that it made life harder for
muslims, not a syllable about 3,000 innocent people burned/crushed to death.

she’s completely deranged.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

stop speaking for me, you really stink at it.

if she said it was a terrible day and thousands of families were devastated, i’d have been fine with that. i don’t expect that maniac to admit muslims did it. but saying “some people did something” is very trump-like in terms of how unnecessarily offensive and insulting it is. her only concern about 9/11 in that speech, was that it made life harder for
muslims, not a syllable about 3,000 innocent people burned/crushed to death.

she’s completely deranged.
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Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking for a response that had nothing to do with the question... yet you can see some people did that as proof of her hating America
So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost as.. the cause of his situation.? Any thing less in un American?


But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? JIM Do you get your info on her from Trump. Look at this gem

TRUMP
“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
— in remarks to reporters on Wednesday

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking for a response that had nothing to do with the question... yet you can see some people did that as proof of her hating America
So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost as.. the cause of his situation.? Any thing less in un American?


But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? JIM Do you get your info on her from Trump. Look at this gem

TRUMP
“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
— in remarks to reporters on Wednesday

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I'm going to annihilate you here, so get ready, OK?

"Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking "

I am not speaking for her. I am responding to an exact quote of what she said. She said 9/11 was "some people did something". And the only victims she showed any concern for in that speech, were fellow Muslims who surely had it rough in the days after 9/11, but not nearly as rough as thousands of American families who had loved ones get burned to death. If you are OK with her description of 09/11, that's your right, but I'm sure most Americans find it deeply offensive, as you certainly would if any Republican said it.

Because that's the rub. You and Pete and Spence can't say anything critical of a democrat. every post you make here can be boiled down to liberal=good, conservative=bad. No exceptions. You are all exactly as thoughtless as Sean Hannity, you're exactly the same. Liberal=good, conservative=bad.

"proof of her hating America"

My proof that she hates America has been laid out already, based on exact statements that she does not deny making. God knows what she says when she knows there are no cameras on her.

"So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost "

If we put Muslims in internment camps after 9/11, you would have a brilliant point. But unless I missed it, we didn't, so you have NO POINT. On the eve of 9/11, on that very day, President Bush said that the religion of Islam was not responsible, and that most Muslims were good people. Is that the same as putting them in internment camp?

How did you come up with internment camps anyway? Did someone tell you that we put Muslims in interment camps after 9/11? Or will you fabricate ANYTHING, in order to avoid having to criticize a liberal?

"But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? "

I really think there's something wrong with you. I said many times in these threads, that "go back where you came from" is over the top, offensive, stupid, and divisive. Is that not clear enough for you? Are you still going to claim that I'm a Trump apologist? Or can you be honest for ONCE?

"Do you get your info on her from Trump. "

You tell me which of these things is a made up Republican lie about her, OK?

She says that people who like Israel have questionable loyalty to the US, that theres challenge to that dual loyalty.

She said that Jews do thing for the benjamins, baby.

She said that 9/11 happened because America meddles in the affairs of other countries. There may be some truth to that as they didn't pick us at random, but it's an offensive thing to say out loud.

She says that US Servicemen in Somalis (who were there to help HER HOME COUNTRY for f*uck's sake), killed thousands of civilians.

She supports the notion that the US is operating concentration camps at the border.

She refused to condemn the Antifa domestic terrorist attack on an ICE detention facility.

These are the reasons I despise her. Now you go ahead and tell us, if any of these are fabricated, if I'm just blindly following Trump.


Go ahead, show us all what a moron I am, tell us which of those things I made up.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm going to annihilate you here, so get ready, OK?

"Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking "

I am not speaking for her. I am responding to an exact quote of what she said. She said 9/11 was "some people did something". And the only victims she showed any concern for in that speech, were fellow Muslims who surely had it rough in the days after 9/11, but not nearly as rough as thousands of American families who had loved ones get burned to death. If you are OK with her description of 09/11, that's your right, but I'm sure most Americans find it deeply offensive, as you certainly would if any Republican said it.

Because that's the rub. You and Pete and Spence can't say anything critical of a democrat. every post you make here can be boiled down to liberal=good, conservative=bad. No exceptions. You are all exactly as thoughtless as Sean Hannity, you're exactly the same. Liberal=good, conservative=bad.

"proof of her hating America"

My proof that she hates America has been laid out already, based on exact statements that she does not deny making. God knows what she says when she knows there are no cameras on her.

"So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost "

If we put Muslims in internment camps after 9/11, you would have a brilliant point. But unless I missed it, we didn't, so you have NO POINT. On the eve of 9/11, on that very day, President Bush said that the religion of Islam was not responsible, and that most Muslims were good people. Is that the same as putting them in internment camp?

clearly you dont understand my point you expect omar to express some deeper feeling about 9\11 when she was speaking how it impacted her and her community... same with Takei does he need t preface pearl harbor attack in his book to move you to accept his criticism

How did you come up with internment camps anyway? Did someone tell you that we put Muslims in interment camps after 9/11? Or will you fabricate ANYTHING, in order to avoid having to criticize a liberal?

"But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? "

I really think there's something wrong with you. I said many times in these threads, that "go back where you came from" is over the top, offensive, stupid, and divisive. Is that not clear enough for you? Are you still going to claim that I'm a Trump apologist? Or can you be honest for ONCE?

But saying its a racist is to far for you i get it

"Do you get your info on her from Trump. "

You tell me which of these things is a made up Republican lie about her, OK?

She says that people who like Israel have questionable loyalty to the US, that there's challenge to that dual loyalty. ( not a new sentiment)

She said that Jews do thing for the benjamins, baby. ( for buying off congress )

She said that 9/11 happened because America meddles in the affairs of other countries. There may be some truth to that as they didn't pick us at random, but it's an offensive thing to say out loud. (why because there might be some truth in it?)

She says that US Servicemen in Somalis (who were there to help HER HOME COUNTRY for f*uck's sake), killed thousands of civilians. (another true statement same in Iraq Robert Oakley, the ambassador to Somalia under President George Bush, said in a 1998 interview that he believed between 1,500 to 2,000 Somalis were killed and wounded.
not all were combatants

She supports the notion that the US is operating concentration camps at the border. i would say concentration camps is an unacceptable comparison used for shock value or as trump supports would say hyperbole not anti semitic yet fox compares border detention centers for children to “summer camps” clearly the conditions are not acceptable

She refused to condemn the Antifa domestic terrorist attack on an ICE detention facility. another leap Jim she didn't answer a question you mean the 69 year old friends described him as an "anarchist" and "anti-fascist," funny found no connection with him being Antifa

These are the reasons I despise her. Now you go ahead and tell us, if any of these are fabricated, if I'm just blindly following Trump.


Go ahead, show us all what a moron I am, tell us which of those things I made up.

Jim Basically you made up all of your own interpretations . presenting them as Truth .. Trump does the same thing

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/u...act-check.html

I know its the falling NY times but its interesting