Gun Legislation

[Jim in CT]

Two different problems, mass shootings and gang violence.

For mass shootings, i’m completely fine with banning large capacity magazines, and i’m fine with restrictions on guns in homes where someone lives who is mentally ill. The second amendment is not absolute, the same guys who wrote it also founded the university of virginia and banned weapons on campus. So it clearly wasn’t intended to be absolute. these measures will not eliminate mass shootings, no lawnis perfect, but they might reduce the overall body count. we also need to make it easier to commit the mentally ill.

we also need to somehow reverse fatherlessness, a good start would be saying out loud that toxic
masculinity is a moronic liberal myth.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Two different problems, mass shootings and gang violence.

For mass shootings, i’m completely fine with banning large capacity magazines, and i’m fine with restrictions on guns in homes where someone lives who is mentally ill. The second amendment is not absolute, the same guys who wrote it also founded the university of virginia and banned weapons on campus. So it clearly wasn’t intended to be absolute. these measures will not eliminate mass shootings, no lawnis perfect, but they might reduce the overall body count. we also need to make it easier to commit the mentally ill.

we also need to somehow reverse fatherlessness, a good start would be saying out loud that toxic
masculinity is a moronic liberal myth.
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you've always insisted that liberalism is a mental disorder....soooo...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m fine with restrictions on guns in homes where someone lives who is mentally ill.
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Define "Restrictions" and define "Mentally Ill"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Define "Restrictions" and define "Mentally Ill"

they like to be vague.....ask him about the University of Virginia...WAIT!! don't

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

they like to be vague.....ask him about the University of Virginia...WAIT!! don't

yeah yeah yeah.

i brought my golden retriever, a certified pet therapy dog, to Newtown. I’m sure what i saw there, is affecting my judgment here scott. but i won’t lose any sleep if paranoid schizophrenics aren’t allowed access to firearms. we take the right to bear arms away from felons, from those who fail background checks, and from those who have restraining orders against them, right? is this so different from
that?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yeah yeah yeah.

but i won’t lose any sleep if paranoid schizophrenics aren’t allowed access to firearms.

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well that's a little more specificity...probably shouldn't have access to any sharp objects either

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

well that's a little more specificity...probably shouldn't have access to any sharp objects either

it’s hard scott, we should be a little better than this. i’m not saying i have any meaningful
answers. but every time this happens, the right circles their wagons around guns, the left can’t talk about anything other than guns. and nothing gets better.

Well, now they can blame Trump too, which is astounding.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Define "Restrictions" and define "Mentally Ill"

that’s the obvious question! i don’t think i can. i won’t lose any sleep trusting that to doctors, or to judges, or to whoever we entrust to grant restraining orders. we let fellow citizens decide if another citizen should go to prison, and in some cases, if that person should
be executed. if we’re comfortable with that responsibility, i can be comfortable with some
kind of hearing to determine if a home has a mental health issue significant enough to remove guns, or maybe only allow guns with fingerprint recognition so that he impaired person can’t hurt anyone else. if that makes me a gun grabbing commie totalitarian, i can live with that characterization if it prevents one single 4 -foot casket from going into the ground.

at some point we have to try something. obviously it won’t solve the problem. might save some
innocent lives, without necessarily trampling on basic rights. just my opinion.
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