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08-14-2019, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
I'll ask again
"If making things illegal stops people, then why do people continue to drink and drive, sell drugs, rape people, kill people, steal ... ?
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If all of the above were legal, would it increase or decrease their occurrence?
Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of man will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice without constraint.
Alexander Hamilton
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08-14-2019, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If all of the above were legal, would it increase or decrease their occurrence?
Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of man will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice without constraint.
Alexander Hamilton
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what's your point?
Hamilton also proposed President for Life, Senators for Life and was viewed as a monarchist sympathizer....
"Ultimately Hamilton wanted to take the idea of self government out of the Constitution, claiming that power should go to the "rich and well born". This idea all but isolated Hamilton from his fellow delegates and others who were tempered in the ideas of revolution and liberty."
According to Madison's notes, Hamilton said in regards to the executive, "The English model was the only good one on this subject. The hereditary interest of the king was so interwoven with that of the nation, and his personal emoluments so great, that he was placed above the danger of being corrupted from abroad... Let one executive be appointed for life who dares execute his powers."
I guess Hamilton would have been in favor of KING TRUMP  |
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08-14-2019, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
what's your point?
Hamilton also proposed President for Life, Senators for Life and was viewed as a monarchist sympathizer....
"Ultimately Hamilton wanted to take the idea of self government out of the Constitution, claiming that power should go to the "rich and well born". This idea all but isolated Hamilton from his fellow delegates and others who were tempered in the ideas of revolution and liberty."
According to Madison's notes, Hamilton said in regards to the executive, "The English model was the only good one on this subject. The hereditary interest of the king was so interwoven with that of the nation, and his personal emoluments so great, that he was placed above the danger of being corrupted from abroad... Let one executive be appointed for life who dares execute his powers."
I guess Hamilton would have been in favor of KING TRUMP |
My point is laws never totally eliminate behavior, but we still believe they are necessary.
What’s yours?
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08-14-2019, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
My point is laws never totally eliminate behavior, but we still believe they are necessary.
What’s yours?
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Do you adhere to everythingHamilton stood for PeteF ,or are you being selective again? Asking for a friend.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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08-14-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
My point is laws never totally eliminate behavior, but we still believe they are necessary.
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good one!...wtf? |
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08-14-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
My point is laws never totally eliminate behavior, but we still believe they are necessary.
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of course, but that does not mean we should put up with bad laws that favor the power hungry rulers who sit on their butts and tell us how to live. |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-14-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If all of the above were legal, would it increase or decrease their occurrence?answer a question with a question, typical. you have no answer
Why has government been instituted at all? So that a limited government can see to it that our natural rights can be exercised freelyBecause the passions of man will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice without constraint.
Alexander Hamilton
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try answering with an answer |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-14-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
try answering with an answer
I'll ask again
"If making things illegal stops people, then why do people continue to drink and drive, sell drugs, rape people, kill people, steal ... ?
Since all of the above are illegal, and people still do them, what makes you think that making any guns illegal will stop those that want to cause harm?"
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Because the passions of man will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice without constraint, we enact laws that our elected officials feel are reasonable with the hope that our fellow Americans will obey them.
They do reduce behavior and actions that we find hazardous or objectionable, it is also obvious that laws don't absolutely prevent anything. |
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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