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Old 09-08-2019, 12:45 PM   #1
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Congress specifically did not authorize the funding for the wall.
Trump decided to declare an emergency and said in public in the Rose Garden that he did not need to declare said emergency.
If you can spin that into Article 2 powers, you have a very broad interpretation.
He was probably just kidding, or misconstrued.
There are several billion dollars of UNOBLIGATED funds in the military budget that can be transferred to other projects, such as wall construction, that the Pentagon deems necessary or appropriate. Which it has. And you guys seem to miss that the Senate is the other half of Congress. In order for "Congress" to disapprove of how that money is spent, it would take both the House and the Senate to agree. At this point, the Senate is backing the President.
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:37 PM   #2
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There are several billion dollars of UNOBLIGATED funds in the military budget that can be transferred to other projects, such as wall construction, that the Pentagon deems necessary or appropriate. Which it has. And you guys seem to miss that the Senate is the other half of Congress. In order for "Congress" to disapprove of how that money is spent, it would take both the House and the Senate to agree. At this point, the Senate is backing the President.
That all works as long as you declare an emergency, but when you claim you didn't need to it ought to make you think. I suppose it was just hyperbole, puffery or it could be another lie.



The Space Control Facility at Peterson Air Force Base is out. No doubt Gen. John W. Raymond, the newly appointed head of Space Command, would have objected to robbing Peterson to pay for the wall.

The Fire/Crash/Rescue Station at Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida is no more, because who needs rescuing from a crashed or flaming airplane?

The Child Development Center at Joint Base Andrews will not be built. Those youngsters, “ages six weeks to five years,” will probably be fine at whatever facility they currently have, which the Defense Department obviously had previously considered inadequate. Ditto the middle school in Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

The Ambulatory Care Center at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, will go without its renovation. But remember, just because President Trump’s executive order took money away from health care for servicemembers — to pay for a wall we don’t need that he promised Mexico would pay for — doesn’t mean he loves the troops any less.

The Laurel Bay Fire Station in Beaufort, South Carolina, will not be replaced. Whatever was wrong with the old fire station that convinced the Defense Department to replace it will remain wrong with it.

Joint Base Langley-Eustis in Virginia will not get a new cyber operations facility, because the future of warfare probably has nothing to do with computers and everything to do with walls.

The hazardous materials warehouse at Norfolk Navy Base in Norfolk, Virginia, will not be replaced. What could go wrong?

These are just examples from the contiguous United States. There are other programs being cancelled in U.S. territories and overseas bases, including more schools for the children of servicemembers, readiness centers, a hazardous material storage building, repair facilities for stealth fighter jets, and dozens of training facilities.

The military construction budget was gutted to build 175 miles of wall and fencing along the border with Mexico, which is about 2,000 miles long.

Good thing nothing they canceled was all that important.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...&sidebar=false

Just remember your justification when the next president declares an emergency to solve one of these problems.

1. Divert military money to fund renewable energy and climate-related construction projects
2. Block domestic oil drilling
3. Restrict car emissions
4. Overhaul trade with countries that buy and sell fossil fuels
5. Change gun regulations
And when you say they could not, keep in mind that at the beginning of the year it was thought that Trump couldn't.

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