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09-11-2019, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
As we lose McMaster, Mattis etc.. from the administration we move further and further down the list of qualified, rational folks to help guide this chaotic administration.
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this is pretty funny...did you think this when Obama fired Mattis ?...Mattis just wrote a book that pummels Obama and his administration for being a chaotic mess 
"I was leaving a region aflame and in disarray. The lack of an integrated regional strategy had left us adrift, and our friends confused. We were offering no leadership or direction. I left my post deeply disturbed that we had shaken our friends’ confidence and created vacuums that our adversaries would exploit."
“Each step along the way, I argued for political clarity and offered options that gave the Commander in Chief a rheostat he could dial up or down to protect our nation.” The commander in chief wasn’t interested. He turned the rheostat off."
Sounds like Mattis doesn't think Obama was interested in protecting our nation and had an incoherent foreign policy....there's much more.... |
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09-11-2019, 06:10 AM
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He is in lock step with the party and incapable of an honest thought. But hey, Trump = bad.
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09-11-2019, 06:41 AM
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Typical Dangles post. Insult without any substantive content. If you knew what people actually thought you have some serious ESP. Most of the reason I stay out of this circle jerk lately, besides being busy at as #^&#^&#^&#^&, is the limited content and snide bickering between both sides.
Do I like all of Mattis ideas, No, of course not. Do I think he was doing a good job in this role, yes, particularly trying to keep petulant in chief under control. I can also respect him as being a thoughtful, tough, sane military commander.
I can lean left while still thinking we need to be strong on defense and terrorism particularly.
I also don’t think Obama handled the Middle East particularly well regarding ISIS or Syria. If in part that was driven by firing Mattis, than I disagree with it, fwiw.
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09-11-2019, 07:34 AM
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#34
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
You spelled ‘save trump from boo-boo feelings about being wrong’ wrong
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Yet this post contains humility and insight.
But keep complaining about the limited content.
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09-11-2019, 07:37 AM
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trump got rid of bolton because lets be honest bolton didn't agree do do what ever Trump wanted ..
Again the only reasons people here support Trump is because Dems dont like him..
Even when dems post Legitimate reason and facts to back up their criticism.. its a cult of personality...
Just look at the comments about antonio brown and the pats .. these same Trump enablers who champion results over personality
Are fliping there #^&#^&#^&#^& over Brown and how it diminishes the pats respect .. that hes a head case and out of control on social media . but for The POTUS it doesn't matter.. its all about results.. but lets ingnore his negtive results. And chaos in the administration.. but the economy ok for now
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09-11-2019, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
China is more eco-friendly than the US, because they spend more money on renewable energy!! You heard it here!!
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Most stupid thing I read all day. Must be sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
China has a goal of reducing the use of coal and is, Trump promised to increase the use of coal.
China spends 5x as much of their GDP on renewable energy as the USA.
China is looking to the future with green energy, conservation and technology investment.
Trump’s policy calls for increased energy use, reduced environmental regulation and claims climate change is not an issue.
One is looking to the future along with the rest of the world, Trump wants to return to the 60s.
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Nope, this is the most stupid thing I read all day. Suspect not sarcasm.
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This event is truly astounding, it's Orwellian even.
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When is the left's next Two Weeks of Hate, cough, Antifa, cough?
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Originally Posted by scottw
Sounds like Mattis doesn't think Obama was interested in protecting our nation and had an incoherent foreign policy....there's much more....
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09-11-2019, 07:54 AM
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#37
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Originally Posted by wdmso
trump got rid of bolton because lets be honest bolton didn't agree do do what ever Trump wanted ..
Again the only reasons people here support Trump is because Dems dont like him..
Even when dems post Legitimate reason and facts to back up their criticism.. its a cult of personality...
Just look at the comments about antonio brown and the pats .. these same Trump enablers who champion results over personality
Are fliping there #^&#^&#^&#^& over Brown and how it diminishes the pats respect .. that hes a head case and out of control on social media . but for The POTUS it doesn't matter.. its all about results.. but lets ingnore his negtive results. And chaos in the administration.. but the economy ok for now
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Wayne,this post is great. Just who are you talking about as far as Trump enablers who are going to bat for Brown?Is it Bruce? Your cheese is sliding off the cracker buddy boy. TDS has set in and it looks like a bad case,perhaps fatal.
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09-11-2019, 07:55 AM
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#38
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Trump's National Security team is currently missing
- Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security
- Director and Deputy Director of National Intelligence
- National Security Advisor
- Army/Air Force Secretaries
He hasn't even nominated anyone for most of these positions
Maybe Don jr and Eric are taking care of it.
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09-11-2019, 09:11 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by wdmso
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Again the only reasons people here support Trump is because Dems dont like him..
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wayne, that’s just not true. when i vote for potus, here are the things i want..:
someone who will help the economy
someone who will look out for
unborn
someone who is strong in national defense, but not given to committing to endless conflict
someone who will appoint judges who put the constitution ahead of their personal agendas.
there are a lot of people who share these priorities. looking at the 2016 election through that lens, it was an easy and obvious choice.
As to results over personality, absolutely. i’d like results and good character, that wasn’t available.
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09-11-2019, 09:40 AM
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1. China has a goal of reducing the use of coal and is,
1. Trump promised to increase the use of coal.
2. China spends 5x as much of their GDP on renewable energy as the USA.
3. China is looking to the future with green energy, conservation and technology investment.
4. Trump’s policy calls for increased energy use, reduced environmental regulation and claims climate change is not an issue.
One is looking to the future along with the rest of the world, Trump wants to return to the 60s.
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Nope, this is the most stupid thing I read all day. Suspect not sarcasm.
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What of the above is not true?
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09-11-2019, 09:45 AM
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pete, where does china stand in a list of the worlds leading polluters? you left that statistic out. and you did it for a very specific reason. because it's probably the single most relevant statistic, and you ignored it completely. defending the environmental friendliness of china, is exactly like sean hannity refusing to criticize Trump. kind of funny when you look at it that way.
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09-11-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Most stupid thing I read all day. Must be sarcasm.
Nope, this is the most stupid thing I read all day. Suspect not sarcasm.
When is the left's next Two Weeks of Hate, cough, Antifa, cough?
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of course i was being sarcastic, responding to pete’s nonsense.
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09-11-2019, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
pete, where does china stand in a list of the worlds leading polluters? you left that statistic out. and you did it for a very specific reason. because it's probably the single most relevant
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What metric would you like to use?
Total is skewed because the population of China is 4x USA and it does produce more.
But if you look at it per capita in metric tons of carbon
USA 16.5
China 7.5
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09-11-2019, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What metric would you like to use?
Total is skewed because the population of China is 4x USA and it does produce more.
But if you look at it per capita in metric tons of carbon
USA 16.5
China 7.5
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if the planet can only absorb a certain carbon output, does per capita matter? or absolute?
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09-11-2019, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
if the planet can only absorb a certain carbon output, does per capita matter? or absolute?
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Totals always matter, but one needs to set attainable goals and work towards them.
If you did it in totals, you would put China's economy in the bottom 10% of the world. Pretty unrealistic way to look at it. They would not be willing to do that nor would I expect them to. Not sure they could even have the dreaded yurt, though I think some already do. The yurt dwellers likely produce very little in the way of carbon emissions.
China carbon production per cap is roughly 150% of the average of the world per capita.
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09-11-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Wayne,this post is great. Just who are you talking about as far as Trump enablers who are going to bat for Brown?Is it Bruce? Your cheese is sliding off the cracker buddy boy. TDS has set in and it looks like a bad case,perhaps fatal.
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Brown just got accused of rape he's more like Trump than you're willing to admit that in itself is hilarious .. Mainly because some cant see the comparison and are more outraged over Browns behavior and how it makes the pats look .. But could care less How Trump makes Team America Look ..  |
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09-11-2019, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What metric would you like to use?
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Emissions Output. The only metric that matters. |
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09-11-2019, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Emissions Output. The only metric that matters.
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Bossman says straws don't matter 
But China also stopped taking our straws, now we send them to someone else who will dump them in the ocean rather than us.
China implemented the National Sword policy at the beginning of 2018 to protect their environment and develop their own domestic recycling capacity by restricting imports of waste. Since exporting plastic waste is a convenient way for the United States (U.S.) and other industrialized countries to count plastic waste as “recycled” and avoid disposal costs and impacts at home, there has been a significant increase of plastic waste shipments to other countries instead of China. Unfortunately, most of our plastic waste is still shipped to countries that are not equipped to safely and securely manage it. |
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09-11-2019, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Brown just got accused of rape he's more like Trump than you're willing to admit that in itself is hilarious .. Mainly because some cant see the comparison and are more outraged over Browns behavior and how it makes the pats look .. But could care less How Trump makes Team America Look .. |
So you equate the alleged rape with Republicans. You see parallels between Trump and Brown because of this. Now every Trump supporter is a rape supporter. Got it. But you don’t have TDS...WONDERFULLY BRILLIANT. Thanks for the explanation
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09-12-2019, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
So you equate the alleged rape with Republicans. You see parallels between Trump and Brown because of this.( No why would you say that is Brown a republican?) Now every Trump supporter is a rape supporter.( no.. Most Tump supporter doesn't care if He was accused of rape But with Brown its get rid of him he is a stain on the Pats sorry if that to cryptic of a comparison for you) Got it. But you don’t have TDS...WONDERFULLY BRILLIANT. Thanks for the explanation you should be a defense lawyer but not sure using TDS all the time is considered is a defense
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09-12-2019, 05:38 AM
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Thanks for adding clarity to your statement. I guess I was not aware you had gathered evidence indicating most Trump supporters wanted Brown off the team.👍🏽
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