Can you imagine a worse reason to start a civil war?

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Your claim it’s a “fact” his request was legal and legit I believe is as wrong as you and the GOP spinning this as a nothing burger.

The fact is that the chief executive of a country, or his executive branch legal apparatus, such as the DOJ, or personal legal representatives have the right by treaty to ask the chief executive of a foreign country to assist in determining, in an ongoing investigation of corruption, if any illegal or criminal or corrupt acts occurred either by that countries legal apparatus, or by any American citizens in coordination with that country in regard to the investigation. It is a fact that Trump asked for such assistance. Whether he did so in order to interfere with our coming election is the charge in dispute. That charge is an assumption not a fact. It would have to be proved that he made the request for the specific intention to sway the election, and to disprove that the request was for assistance in an ongoing investigation. That would be very difficult to prove beyond speculation.

The only fact at this point is that he made the request as the Chief executive officer, and it was perfectly, as such, legal for him to do so.

The man has proven he has no issues past, present or future in enlisting foreign powers to interfere in our democracy and elections for personal gain.

Actually, that was not proven by the Mueller investigation, your opinion notwithstanding.

The “fact” is that is exactly why the founding fathers gave congress a means to remove a president who is abusing his power.

Yes, and it is a fact that Congress can abuse that means. It all finally comes down not necessarily to the merits or facts of the case, but to the number of votes.