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10-18-2019, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So quid pro quo is OK when the full US government (whatever that is) wants to do it, but if the chief executive of the government (who is responsible for foreign relations and represents the government in those relations) wants to do it he should be impeached?
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yes he sb impeached when there are NO facts to back up the claim of corruption and that the Pres. is asking the foreign govern. to look into a political rival for his own political gains (along w/other reasons).
Well I guess we are past the point of if there was a QPQ. |
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10-18-2019, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
yes he sb impeached when there are NO facts to back up the claim of corruption and that the Pres. is asking the foreign govern. to look into a political rival for his own political gains (along w/other reasons).
Well I guess we are past the point of if there was a QPQ.
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What did trump gain in the supposed quid pro quo?
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10-18-2019, 11:50 AM
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What did trump gain in the supposed quid pro quo?
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He was asking for dirt on his political rival. Didn't you know that? |
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10-18-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
He was asking for dirt on his political rival. Didn't you know that?
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what did he gain?
it wasn't a tough question...well, maybe for you  |
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10-18-2019, 11:54 AM
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what did he gain?
it wasn't a tough question...well, maybe for you |
He didn't gain anything bc there was no corruption and the whistle blower came forward. |
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10-18-2019, 12:16 PM
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He didn't gain anything
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10-18-2019, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
yes he sb impeached when there are NO facts to back up the claim of corruption
There are ongoing investigations by the DOJ, the IG, By Durham and one other can't remember his name, on such corruption. Apparently they are aware of some "facts" that you're not.
The corrupt seed which led to these investigations and from which blossomed unproven charges of obstruction by Trump was the fake collusion narrative which was not founded on facts or evidence.
So, apparently, facts or evidence are not necessary to start investigations.
and that the Pres. is asking the foreign govern. to look into a political rival for his own political gains (along w/other reasons).
Well I guess we are past the point of if there was a QPQ.
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It is perfectly legitimate to ask a foreign government with which you have an applicable treaty to look into these matters, and there is, as you and others insist re Biden, no proof that Trump is doing it for political gain. |
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10-18-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
It is perfectly legitimate to ask a foreign government with which you have an applicable treaty to look into these matters, and there is, as you and others insist re Biden, no proof that Trump is doing it for political gain.
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Not when it involves a political rival in a QPQ when there is no evidence that the person you are asking about did anything ie Hunter.
Do you have any links to any investigations about Hunter at the time Trump was pressuring the Ukr. to investigate Hunter? |
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10-18-2019, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Not when it involves a political rival in a QPQ when there is no evidence that the person you are asking about did anything ie Hunter.
Do you have any links to any investigations about Hunter at the time Trump was pressuring the Ukr. to investigate Hunter?
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the fact that you think there is nothing to biden's kid being on that board is absolutely hilarious |
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10-18-2019, 12:49 PM
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the fact that you think there is nothing to biden's kid being on that board is absolutely hilarious
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So show may the links I have requested.
The fact that you think there can't be a QPQ if Trump ended up not getting anything is absolutely hilarious. |
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10-18-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So show may the links I have requested.
The fact that you think there can't be a QPQ if Trump ended up not getting anything is absolutely hilarious.
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There was no quo so how could there be a quid pro quo and you completely mischaracterize what he was asking for
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10-18-2019, 01:36 PM
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There was no quo so how could there be a quid pro quo and you completely mischaracterize what he was asking for
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I'm not mischaracterizing anything. He shouldn't have asked the Ukr to look into the son of a political rival.
If you want to hang your hat on the fact the UKr couldn't look into Hunter's corruption bc there was no corruption that is on you. |
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10-18-2019, 12:54 PM
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So show may the links I have
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Just google hunter Biden and read about his life and times. Good grief
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10-18-2019, 06:49 PM
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Not when it involves a political rival in a QPQ when there is no evidence that the person you are asking about did anything ie Hunter.
The Mueller investigation into Trump supposedly conspiratorially colluding with Russia has established that evidence is not necessary to start an investigation.
Do you have any links to any investigations about Hunter at the time Trump was pressuring the Ukr. to investigate Hunter?
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Don't need links in order to be able to think. It is very fishy and stinks of corruption that Hunter got an exceedingly high paying job for which he had no specifically applicable qualifications, and is evident that he got the gig because he is the son of the VP, and that the VP got the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter's employer fired. |
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10-19-2019, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Don't need links in order to be able to think. It is very fishy and stinks of corruption that Hunter got an exceedingly high paying job for which he had no specifically applicable qualifications, and is evident that he got the gig because he is the son of the VP, and that the VP got the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter's employer fired.
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How can something "stink of corruption" when there's still zero evidence of a corrupt act? Getting a good job because of connections isn't exactly corrupt, it's pretty normal.
Burisma wasn't under investigation at the time Biden, a bipartisan Congress and the IMF wanted the prosecutor fired either. |
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10-19-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Getting a good job because of connections isn't exactly corrupt, it's pretty normal.
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You can’t be this dumb
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10-19-2019, 02:19 PM
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You can’t be this dumb
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I'm really not. Perhaps you can help me understand why you think this is wrong. |
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10-19-2019, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Don't need links in order to be able to think. It is very fishy and stinks of corruption that Hunter got an exceedingly high paying job for which he had no specifically applicable qualifications, and is evident that he got the gig because he is the son of the VP, and that the VP got the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter's employer fired.
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Yes, I didn't think you would provide any links. So where exactly is the corruption? it might not be right but it's certainly not corrupt.
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10-19-2019, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Yes, I didn't think you would provide any links. So where exactly is the corruption? it might not be right but it's certainly not corrupt.
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I thought investigations were needed to find alleged corruption or crime or reasons for impeachment. You know, like what they've been doing to Trump from day one and before. |
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10-19-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I thought investigations were needed to find alleged corruption or crime or reasons for impeachment. You know, like what they've been doing to Trump from day one and before.
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If you smell #^&#^&#^&#^& in your house, don’t you look to see where the stink is coming from?
Trump has stunk for years
He can start by releasing his taxes
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10-19-2019, 05:52 PM
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it might not be right but it's certainly not corrupt.
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10-19-2019, 06:08 PM
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This is what we deal with
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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