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Old 12-03-2019, 01:20 PM   #1
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You cite a man and claim him to be a historian, it seems he is quite the scholar, classically trained. Did you learn of him at a PC meeting? I'll waste my time elsewhere.........

Wead was born in Muncie, Indiana. He attended Riley High School, in South Bend, Indiana, then graduated from Canyonville Christian Academy, a private boarding school in Canyonville, Oregon, in 1964. He also attended, but did not graduate from, Central Bible College, in Springfield, Missouri. In 1990, Wead was given an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
That's it? That's a discussion of the video? He's written several books in which he did original sourced investigation. That is what historians do. Whether they attended Harvard or Oxford or no university at all. You speak sarcastically of "classically trained" as if Wead is not. What college did the most famous classical historians Thucydides or Herodotus graduate from? None. Thucydides is considered by some to be the father of "scientific history" and Herodotus to be "The Father of History." They both used the original sources and methods of investigation to write their histories that Wead used to write his.

Wead's humble beginnings are no disqualification to write history. His books on Presidents are historical records written in the tradition and methods of classical historians.

You've got nothing but sarcasm and ignorant disdain to add to this thread. You certainly have nothing pertinent, important, or factual to say about the video.

Trying to kill the messenger is a pitiful tactic when you have nothing else to say. And, BTW, Wead's book paints an entirely different portrait of Trump than you're totally negative, horrific, condemnations. Perhaps the truth is somewhere between the two?

And perhaps, in spite of his flaws, he is actually doing a lot of good and necessary things for this country.
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:23 PM   #2
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That's it? That's a discussion of the video? He's written several books in which he did original sourced investigation. That is what historians do. Whether they attended Harvard or Oxford or no university at all. You speak sarcastically of "classically trained" as if Wead is not. What college did the most famous classical historians Thucydides or Herodotus graduate from? None. Thucydides is considered by some to be the father of "scientific history" and Herodotus to be "The Father of History." They both used the original sources and methods of investigation to write their histories that Wead used to write his.

Wead's humble beginnings are no disqualification to write history. His books on Presidents are historical records written in the tradition and methods of classical historians.

You've got nothing but sarcasm and ignorant disdain to add to this thread. You certainly have nothing pertinent, important, or factual to say about the video.

Trying to kill the messenger is a pitiful tactic when you have nothing else to say. And, BTW, Wead's book paints an entirely different portrait of Trump than you're totally negative, horrific, condemnations. Perhaps the truth is somewhere between the two?

And perhaps, in spite of his flaws, he is actually doing a lot of good and necessary things for this country.
He probably couldn't assail anything the guy said, and God knows he wasn't going to admit he might have a point. So insult the one who said it, and ignore what he said.
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:49 PM   #3
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That's it?

And perhaps, in spite of his flaws, he is actually doing a lot of good and necessary things for this country.
Perhaps, but not likely, sort of like taking your historian as gospel.

How does Wead's PC debacle qualify as evidence of great research skills or is it just what you want the result to be that counts?

Now when you are watching the NATO pressers, keep in mind what a Senator said recently

“Watching Trump on the international stage is like watching a toddler take on a college debate team.”

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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?

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Old 12-03-2019, 02:00 PM   #4
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Perhaps, but not likely, sort of like taking your historian as gospel.

Until you disprove "my" historian, I'll take him, at the least, as perhaps.

How does Wead's PC debacle qualify as evidence of great research skills or is it just what you want the result to be that counts?

His research skills are impressive. They speak for themselves.

Now when you are watching the NATO pressers, keep in mind what a Senator said recently

“Watching Trump on the international stage is like watching a toddler take on a college debate team.”
It's unproductive to keep in mind all the conflicting things that Senators say recently. I appreciate that "your" Senator has an opinion. But I don't take it as gospel.
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