November jobs report crushed expectations

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Speaking of ass kicking, the national debt is at a record $23,089,914,098,997 as Floridaman put $3.1 trillion on the taxpayers’ credit card to buy a sugar-high economy, and while unemployment numbers sound good, the poverty rate in NC is 15-20% in many counties.

And just so we're clear on the math, $3.1 trillion is enough money to create 4,428,800 jobs for 10 years.

you reflexively, instinctively cannot allow good news to stand.

'the poverty rate in NC is 15-20% in many counties.'

Curious why you picked NC. The capital city of uber-liberal Connecticut, one of the wealthiest states in the nation, and a city run by liberals for 75 years, is above 30%. So very curious why you picked NC...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you reflexively, instinctively cannot allow good news to stand.

'the poverty rate in NC is 15-20% in many counties.'

Curious why you picked NC. The capital city of uber-liberal Connecticut, one of the wealthiest states in the nation, and a city run by liberals for 75 years, is above 30%. So very curious why you picked NC...

Just for your benefit

The national debt is at a record $23,089,914,098,997 as Floridaman put $3.1 trillion on the taxpayers’ credit card to buy a sugar-high economy

And just so we're clear on the math, $3.1 trillion is enough money to create 4,428,800 jobs for 10 years.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Just for your benefit

The national debt is at a record $23,089,914,098,997 as Floridaman put $3.1 trillion on the taxpayers’ credit card to buy a sugar-high economy

And just so we're clear on the math, $3.1 trillion is enough money to create 4,428,800 jobs for 10 years.

I've been saying for a long time that the debt needs to be dealt with. Most people only care about debt when their party is not in the oval office, hypocrisy on both sides.

Why'd you pick NC to talk about poverty rates?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you reflexively, instinctively cannot allow good news to stand.

'the poverty rate in NC is 15-20% in many counties.'

Curious why you picked NC. The capital city of uber-liberal Connecticut, one of the wealthiest states in the nation, and a city run by liberals for 75 years, is above 30%. So very curious why you picked NC...

Don't you constantly bring up NC when you want to compare it to Conn?

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Don't you constantly bring up NC when you want to compare it to Conn?

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

I do bring it up, and I can explain why, as if you didn't already know... NC and SC have some communities with a very high standard of living, and very low taxes. Not every community in NC and SC fit that description obviously, but some do, more than zero do. Here in CT, there are exactly zero places that fit that description. Not one. Zero. I think that's significant. I bring up NC as evidence that CT taxes are not necessary to fund a high quality of life, nor are they necessary to provide great public schools, so it's actually relevant when I bring it up.

By contrast, I'm not sure what the poverty rate in some southern counties has to do with the jobs report. Every state has brutally poor areas. Pete was offering that to refute the good news of the jobs report, which is absurd. The United States federal government will never eradicate poverty.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I do bring it up, and I can explain why, as if you didn't already know... NC and SC have some communities with a very high standard of living, and very low taxes. Not every community in NC and SC fit that description obviously, but some do, more than zero do. Here in CT, there are exactly zero places that fit that description. Not one. Zero. I think that's significant.

Zero hypocrisy.

Not sure what the poverty rate in some southern counties has to do with the jobs report. Every state has brutally poor areas. Pete was offering that to refute the good news of the jobs report, which is absurd. The United States federal government will never eradicate poverty.

When you look at states, it looks more like blind belief in rhetorical baloney than hypocrisy on someones part. Cheaper isn't all that counts. Don't forget Floridaman is doing things for black unemployment and that must be wonderful for Hartford and Bridgeport.
And of course income distribution can't be an issue because, well just because. Otherwise it would be somekindofevilism and we can't have that.

38. North Carolina
• Median household income: $52,752
• Population: 10,273,419 (9th highest)
• 2017 unemployment rate: 4.6 percent (17th highest)
• Poverty rate: 14.7 percent (13th highest)

Some 14.7 percent of North Carolina residents live below the poverty line, one of the higher poverty rates in the country.

5. Connecticut
• Median household income: $74,168
• Population: 3,588,184 (22nd lowest)
• 2017 unemployment rate: 4.7 percent (16th highest)
• Poverty rate: 9.6 percent (5th lowest)

Connecticut is one of just a handful of states with a poverty rate under 10 percent, at 9.6 percent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

When you look at states, it looks more like blind belief in rhetorical baloney than hypocrisy on someones part. Cheaper isn't all that counts. Don't forget Floridaman is doing things for black unemployment and that must be wonderful for Hartford and Bridgeport.
And of course income distribution can't be an issue because, well just because. Otherwise it would be somekindofevilism and we can't have that.

38. North Carolina
• Median household income: $52,752
• Population: 10,273,419 (9th highest)
• 2017 unemployment rate: 4.6 percent (17th highest)
• Poverty rate: 14.7 percent (13th highest)

Some 14.7 percent of North Carolina residents live below the poverty line, one of the higher poverty rates in the country.

5. Connecticut
• Median household income: $74,168
• Population: 3,588,184 (22nd lowest)
• 2017 unemployment rate: 4.7 percent (16th highest)
• Poverty rate: 9.6 percent (5th lowest)

Connecticut is one of just a handful of states with a poverty rate under 10 percent, at 9.6 percent.

“cheaper isn’t all that counts.”

i agree, which is why every time, i
mention places that have low cost AND a high quality of
living. My point is that insanely high taxes are not necessary to deliver a high quality of life. Not sure how you didn’t see that.

I’m not saying every city in NC is good, or that every city in CT is bad. My point is that there are cities out there that deliver high quality at low cost, and exactly zero if those cities are in CT. If I’m
wrong, please tell
us which cities in CT are cheap
and have a high standard of living?

How would you possibly make that wrong?

CT is losing population, NC is booming. CT is dying, getting worse and worse every year. It cannot be saved.

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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you reflexively, instinctively cannot allow good news to stand.

'the poverty rate in NC is 15-20% in many counties.'

Curious why you picked NC. The capital city of uber-liberal Connecticut, one of the wealthiest states in the nation, and a city run by liberals for 75 years, is above 30%. So very curious why you picked NC...

Nc avg poverty rate is 14.7 they rank 37th

CT avg poverty rate is 9.6 they rank 5th



All data from talkpoverty.org

Seems NC and CT have issues... local political parties have little influence on national boom or doom trends .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Nc avg poverty rate is 14.7 they rank 37th

CT avg poverty rate is 9.6 they rank 5th



All data from talkpoverty.org

Seems NC and CT have issues... local political parties have little influence on national boom or doom trends .
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CT is richer than NC (mostly because of our good fortune of having beautiful coastline near Manhattan, which NC does not have). Yet CT is losing popultion, and NC is growing. Do you know why that is? I do. It's because unlike CT, NC has some towns that are very cheap and that yet offer a very high quality of life. CT has precisely zero towns that are cheap with a high quality of life.

NC is booming, CT is circling the drain, drowning in debt. True or false? Connecticut's wealth cannot save it from 40 years of pure, unchecked liberalism.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

CT is richer than NC (mostly because of our good fortune of having beautiful coastline near Manhattan, which NC does not have). Yet CT is losing popultion, and NC is growing. Do you know why that is? I do. It's because unlike CT, NC has some towns that are very cheap and that yet offer a very high quality of life. CT has precisely zero towns that are cheap with a high quality of life.

NC is booming, CT is circling the drain, drowning in debt. True or false? Connecticut's wealth cannot save it from 40 years of pure, unchecked liberalism.

you struggle with relative facts.. 2017 to 2018 Connecticut's population has decreased from 3,573,880 to 3,572,665 or a total reduction of 1,215 people OMG NC has 6 million more people then CT i am guessing this hasn't happened over night NC also has a popular coast go to hilton head and see all the 900k houses

Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 696,000 in NC
Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 154,000 in CT

https://spotlightonpoverty.org/states/north-carolina/
https://spotlightonpoverty.org/states/connecticut/

and to pin the blame on Liberalism alone shows your lack of insight and inability to see the bigger picture .

The most popular previous residences for people moving to N.C. in 2017 were:

Florida (32K)
Virginia (29K)
South Carolina (27K)
New York (27K)
California (20K)


The fastest shrinking states
West Virginia.
Illinois. ...
Vermont. 1-yr pop. ...
Connecticut. 1-yr pop. ...
Wyoming. 1-yr pop. ...
Pennsylvania. 1-yr pop. ...
Mississippi. 1-yr pop. ...
New York. 1-yr pop. ...


Fastest growing states Utah Nevada Idaho Florida Washington Oregon Colorado Arizona and all for different reasons running from liberalism or conservatism.. Not high on most peoples reasons to move

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

NC also has a popular coast go to hilton head and see all the 900k houses

Hilton Head is in South Carolina
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Hilton Head is in South Carolina
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Only for Republicans
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Hilton Head is in South Carolina
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i don’t know any wall street investment bankers who commute to the Outer Banks.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

you struggle with relative facts.. 2017 to 2018 Connecticut's population has decreased from 3,573,880 to 3,572,665 or a total reduction of 1,215 people OMG NC has 6 million more people then CT i am guessing this hasn't happened over night NC also has a popular coast go to hilton head and see all the 900k houses

Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 696,000 in NC
Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 154,000 in CT

https://spotlightonpoverty.org/states/north-carolina/
https://spotlightonpoverty.org/states/connecticut/

and to pin the blame on Liberalism alone shows your lack of insight and inability to see the bigger picture .

The most popular previous residences for people moving to N.C. in 2017 were:

Florida (32K)
Virginia (29K)
South Carolina (27K)
New York (27K)
California (20K)


The fastest shrinking states
West Virginia.
Illinois. ...
Vermont. 1-yr pop. ...
Connecticut. 1-yr pop. ...
Wyoming. 1-yr pop. ...
Pennsylvania. 1-yr pop. ...
Mississippi. 1-yr pop. ...
New York. 1-yr pop. ...


Fastest growing states Utah Nevada Idaho Florida Washington Oregon Colorado Arizona and all for different reasons running from liberalism or conservatism.. Not high on most peoples reasons to move

Cost of living is very high in reasons for moving. Cost of
living tends to be higher
in liberal states.

i’ve lives in CT my whole
life. The unfunded debt is 120 billion, which is 40,000 for every one of the 3 million people living there. So on top of current taxes which are insanely high, funding the debt requires another 160,000 for every family of 4.

having high taxes is bad. having impossible debt is bad. having both at the same time, requires next generation stupidity. And CT is as blue as it gets. Even you can connect those dots.
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