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01-12-2020, 09:04 AM
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British Defence Secretary
Ben Wallace: UK 'must be prepared to fight wars without US'
I worry if the United States withdraws from its leadership around the world," Mr Wallace said "That would be bad for the world and bad for us. We plan for the worst and hope for the best."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51081861
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01-12-2020, 09:22 AM
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Ben Wallace: UK 'must be prepared to fight wars without US'
I worry if the United States withdraws from its leadership around the world," Mr Wallace said "That would be bad for the world and bad for us. We plan for the worst and hope for the best."
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so liberals attacked bush for getting us into a long war of questionable
value.
When trump decides to avoid endless wars of questionable
value, you attack him for that?
WDMSO, which is it? Is it our responsibility to be the worlds policeman, or isn’t it?
Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
Try this...develop a principle, and apply that principle equally, regardless of the political party of the sitting president.
it would be bad if we withdrew from the world. Fortunately, we aren’t doing that. I saw a lot of US firefighters arriving in Australia, and they got a standing ovation at the airport. We’re not withdrawing from
the world.
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01-12-2020, 12:02 PM
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so liberals attacked bush for getting us into a long war of questionable
value.
When trump decides to avoid endless wars of questionable
value, you attack him for that?
WDMSO, which is it? Is it our responsibility to be the worlds policeman, or isn’t it?
Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
Try this...develop a principle, and apply that principle equally, regardless of the political party of the sitting president.
it would be bad if we withdrew from the world. Fortunately, we aren’t doing that. I saw a lot of US firefighters arriving in Australia, and they got a standing ovation at the airport. We’re not withdrawing from
the world.
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Your missing his point
He is saying the US under Trump is no longer a reliable allied
Nothing you said has anything to do with what he's talking about.
Please let me know when trumps got us out of endless wars
Saw the firefighters airport and whole 20 of them clearly not alot and nothing to do with American leadership.
Whats Trump doing about PR ?
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01-12-2020, 12:05 PM
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Your missing his point
He is saying the US under Trump is no longer a reliable allied
Nothing you said has anything to with it
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what have we done to abandon Great Britain?
The fact that the US is sending firefighters to Australia, to risk their lives to serve the people on the opposite side of the world, isn't proof that we haven't abandoned the world?
Nothing will please you, no matter what the US does to help other countries. You hear a criticism of Trump, you suck it up like a Hoover deluxe and cling to it regardless of the facts.
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01-12-2020, 12:26 PM
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what war is the UK fighting anyway?
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01-12-2020, 12:49 PM
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what war is the UK fighting anyway?
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the war to keep the prince within the royal family.
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01-12-2020, 12:55 PM
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Once again our president is in a no win scenario with PR. He is likely working tirelessly to help these folks get their aid. The problem with just sending $ to PR is that it will be plundered by the corrupt politicians,which happened last time he trusted their hierarchy. Only a fool would do that again.
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01-12-2020, 01:07 PM
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what have we done to abandon Great Britain?
Ask them this isn't just some guy off the street making this statement
The fact that the US is sending firefighters to Australia, to risk their lives to serve the people on the opposite side of the world, isn't proof that we haven't abandoned the world?
The US government isn't sending firefighters their all volunteers
All 150 of them again has nothing to do with the topic
Nothing will please you, no matter what the US does to help other countries. You hear a criticism of Trump, you suck it up like a Hoover deluxe and cling to it regardless of the facts.
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The only one clinging to Trumps inmangary helping of other countries is you
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01-12-2020, 01:11 PM
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The only one clinging to Trumps inmangary helping of other countries is you
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tell that to the Israelis.
Honest to god, you literally cannot accept anything that paints the guy in a favorable light.
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01-12-2020, 01:11 PM
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Once again our president is in a no win scenario with PR. He is likely working tirelessly to help these folks get their aid. The problem with just sending $ to PR is that it will be plundered by the corrupt politicians,which happened last time he trusted their hierarchy. Only a fool would do that again.
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Lol working tirelessly to help these people
But I get it f theses americans for the sins of others 
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01-12-2020, 03:52 PM
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if we have abandoned the world, why are the Hong Kong protesters waving the american flag?
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01-12-2020, 04:07 PM
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if we have abandoned the world, why are the Hong Kong protesters waving the american flag?
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For the same reason their waving British flags
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01-12-2020, 04:09 PM
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tell that to the Israelis.
Honest to god, you literally cannot accept anything that paints the guy in a favorable light.
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Americans have always helped Iseral Trumps the only one blowing them but 
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01-12-2020, 05:29 PM
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Wait.
"America shouldn't be world's police"
"America's military is too big and needs to be halved"
"Military Industrial Complex"
How am I doing?
8 years of protesting America was evil and begging NATO to pay more, followed by no protesting because 8 years of Nobel Peace Prize with light begging of NATO pay more while hollowing out our forces , followed by 3 years of Pu$$y Hats wereallgonnadie if we don't attack Turkey and the save the Kurds without pizzing off Iran because Orange Man Bad.
For the record I am for a better diplomatic corps, not retreating to our shores. Neither side can manage to get past talking points.
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01-12-2020, 05:49 PM
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Lol working tirelessly to help these people
But I get it f theses americans for the sins of others 
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I think you understand what I mean. The aid will get there to help the victims this time instead of our American politicians. This is not the all or nothing scenario that you portray here. The real story is the 1 death that resulted from this potential catastrophe. Thank Trump for that.👌
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-12-2020, 06:23 PM
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For the same reason their waving British flags
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which is what?
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01-13-2020, 09:09 AM
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which is what?
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If i need to tell you, you need to expand your information network.
Its not cryptic
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01-13-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I think you understand what I mean. The aid will get there to help the victims this time instead of our American politicians. This is not the all or nothing scenario that you portray here. The real story is the 1 death that resulted from this potential catastrophe. Thank Trump for that.👌
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Thats funny trump will risk war due to the Death of 1 American
But seeing only 1 person died in the Earthquakes. No help for PR. Such logic
PR didnt kiss Trumps ass after the hurricane so now he and his pals froze 18mil in aid and he did sign a disaster declaration for this earthquake, watching to see his response to the tornadoes, seeing 12 people killed, deaths are the new metrics on disasters
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01-13-2020, 10:16 AM
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Thats funny trump will risk war due to the Death of 1 American
But seeing only 1 person died in the Earthquakes. No help for PR. Such logic
PR didnt kiss Trumps ass after the hurricane so now he and his pals froze 18mil in aid and he did sign a disaster declaration for this earthquake, watching to see his response to the tornadoes, seeing 12 people killed, deaths are the new metrics on disasters
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Wayne, your hubris is showing. Trump is not risking war, nor was the targeting of this monster due to the death of 1 American. But you know that and it upsets you for some reason.
Additionally,my fishing partner has 5 homes in PR. One of which was damaged. He went down last week...to go fishing.
You should really educate yourself about some of these topics before spouting your foolishness. Get well soon.👌
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01-13-2020, 12:22 PM
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Wayne, your hubris is showing. Trump is not risking war, nor was the targeting of this monster due to the death of 1 American. But you know that and it upsets you for some reason.
Additionally,my fishing partner has 5 homes in PR. One of which was damaged. He went down last week...to go fishing.
You should really educate yourself about some of these topics before spouting your foolishness. Get well soon.👌
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Some parts of the island are more affected than others. No kidding but its all is good. Cuz you well off Friend only has damage on 1-5 houses.
Thats some educational view ... thanks
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01-13-2020, 01:01 PM
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Haha,not well off...just a smart investor. For a barber. 💈
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01-14-2020, 07:08 AM
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the british prime
minister, who is the boss of the defense secretary, is happy to replace Obamas iran deal with trumps.
so much for them feeling like we abandoned them.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bor...ran-trump-deal
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