Schiff lost his marbles

[spence]

Dershowitz just said the president can do anything to get re-elected if they think it’s in the public’s interest. This is full on crazy.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Dershowitz just said the president can do anything to get re-elected if they think it’s in the public’s interest. This is full on crazy.
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Puppies will help
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Dershowitz just said the president can do anything to get re-elected if they think it’s in the public’s interest. This is full on crazy.
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what are you saying? that if a first term president has an idea that will
benefit all of us, he can’t enact it if
it will also help him at the polls?
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by spence

Dershowitz just said the president can do anything to get re-elected if they think it’s in the public’s interest. This is full on crazy.
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Bizarre legal strategy, we now admit he did the dirty dead, but he can do anything he likes in order to get elected if he thinks it’s in the public interest. Can you imagine how bad that could get if expanded into other areas of what he perceives is not in the public interest.

He can seek help from a foreign power to influence our elections, illegally hold back military aid putting our national security at risk and when caught obstruct congress from doing its job, all because what is important is getting re-elected because he perceives it’s in the public interest.

Crazy wacky legal argument is what your left with when you really can’t defend the charges.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

he did the dirty dead

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they could probably impeach him for this....very troubling

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Bizarre legal strategy, we now admit he did the dirty dead

No, "we" are not saying that the deed was dirty. And"we" are not saying that an actual "deed" was done. The deed did not occur. It is alleged that he wanted to do the deed. But the deed was not done.

but he can do anything he likes in order to get elected if he thinks it’s in the public interest.

No. Dershowitz was speaking of foreign policy decisions. He is not able to commit treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. That also applies to his foreign policy actions. And even his foreign policy decisions can be contested or not funded if they require money and many other ways, including lack of support from his own party.

Can you imagine how bad that could get if expanded into other areas of what he perceives is not in the public interest.

See above.

He can seek help from a foreign power to influence our elections, illegally hold back military aid putting our national security at risk and when caught obstruct congress from doing its job, all because what is important is getting re-elected because he perceives it’s in the public interest.

Crazy wacky legal argument is what your left with when you really can’t defend the charges.

Your crazy wacky legal argument is merely a false conjecture, and a concocted speculative narrative about what supposedly happened.

[Pete F.]

Drip.....drip.....drip

Indicted Rudy Giulaini associate Lev Parnas has now directly implicated Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) in President Donald Trump’s Ukraine extortion scheme.

It turns out the plot to strong-arm Ukrainian officials into announcing a sham investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden goes back to 2018, and Graham not only knew everything from the start, he was in on it long before Parnas got involved.

Flanked by his attorney Joseph Bondy, Parnas revealed the extent of Graham’s involvement during an interview with Anderson Cooper on CNN Wednesday night.

“Senator Lindsey Graham I haven’t had any contact with, but because of my relationship with Rudy Giuliani, I have a lot of information about his dealings,” Parnas said. “It was, like, surreal to watch Lindsey Graham up there, sit there — he’s out there talking about all the stuff, that this is a sham, that this should go away.”

“At the end of the day, he was in the loop just like everybody else,” Parnas continued. “He (had) a very good relationship with Rudy Giuliani, he was aware of what was going on going back to at least 2018, maybe even earlier. If you recall, he was the one Rudy Giuliani was supposed to bring Viktor Shokin to when the visa got denied, and I think he was even, if you check the records, involved in getting the request for the visa somehow.”

Giuliani pushed for such a visa in January 2019 in order to bring Shokin, a disgraced and corrupt former Ukrainian prosecutor, to the United States to deliver what would have been false testimony accusing Biden of getting him ousted to kill an investigation of Burisma, the gas company his son Hunter Biden worked for as a board member. However, the investigation had been dormant for two years before the Obama administration pushed for Shokin’s ouster.

His effort to bring Shokin failed, so Trump himself would demand a “favor” from newly elected Ukraine President Zelensky and withhold nearly $400 million of military aid hostage until Zelensky bowed down to his demand. In the end, Trump got caught after a whistleblower revealed the extortion scheme.

“Senator Graham was involved even before I got involved with Mayor Giuliani, so he had to have been in the loop and had to have known what was going on,” Parnas said. “I was with Giuliani every day, that was what was happening. Rudy told me not once but on several occasions that he spoke to Lindsey Graham about the situation, that Lindsey was always aware. I don’t know how deeply aware, I didn’t speak to Lindsey Graham, I don’t have text messages with him, we didn’t interact, so I can only speak from what Rudy told me.”