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02-18-2020, 02:56 PM
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Madoff is wondering what he did wrong to be left out
Really hard to think of a collection of individuals less deserving of presidential intervention than Joe Arpaio, Scooter Libby, Dinesh D’Souza, Conrad Black, Bernie Kerik, plus a handful of right wing arsonists and war criminals and now he's adding Rod Blagojevich, and Michael Milken.
Many people say he's sending a message to Roger Stone.
And certainly all these pardons and commutations further Agolf’s reputation for fighting corruption here or in Ukraine, no?
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02-18-2020, 05:42 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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1. Reward your friends
2. Punish your enemies
Simply rules by which Trump lives his life.
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02-18-2020, 06:37 PM
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Nothing like letting out someone who's tried selling a senator seat, and a police commissioner convicted of tax fraud and lying to the government. Draining the swamp and turning it into a cesspool.
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02-18-2020, 06:57 PM
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Funny that the folks who think that impeachment tries to “undo an election” by citizen-voters don’t have problems when Trump uses his pardon power to “undo a conviction” by citizen-juries.
Wait, what? “It’s in the Constitution!” you say? Yes, exactly.
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02-19-2020, 07:06 AM
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this is from an article from August so a little update is required but still demonstrates how ridiculous you are...
Franklin D. Roosevelt: 2,819 pardons
Harry S. Truman: 1,913 pardons
Dwight D. Eisenhower: 1,110 pardons
Woodrow Wilson: 1,087 pardons
Lyndon Johnson: 960 pardons
Richard Nixon: 863 pardons
Calvin Coolidge: 773 pardons
Herbert Hoover: 672 pardons
Theodore Roosevelt: 668 pardons
Jimmy Carter: 534 pardons
John F. Kennedy: 472 pardons
Bill Clinton: 396 pardons
Ronald Reagan: 393 pardons
William H. Taft: 383 pardons
Gerald Ford: 382 pardons
Warren Harding: 386 pardons
William McKinley: 291 pardons
Barack Obama: 212 pardons
George W. Bush: 189 pardons
George H.W. Bush: 74 pardons
Donald J. Trump: 10 pardons*
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02-19-2020, 07:58 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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It’s not the number of pardons, it’s who you pardon that tells the story.
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02-19-2020, 08:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
It’s not the number of pardons, it’s who you pardon that tells the story.
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you shouldn't type before you think
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02-19-2020, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you shouldn't type before you think
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Doesn’t take much thought, when it comes to patterning Trump it’s pretty easy, white collar buddies can expect help.
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02-19-2020, 08:35 AM
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But if the process that leads to conviction has been dishonest, it must not be accepted. Yes if there is evidences to support the suggestion
But fair and balanced can only work within a system that is not corrupted. Again if there is evidence of corruption
Trump and his supporters imaginary corruption is not acceptable
These are comments about Roger stones convictions, they are in line with Trump campaign on delegitimizing the Courts its process and jury's as all part of the deepstate .. he even suggested Muller was involved in one case ... and he wasn't in government when it happen...
But again this is cloked in half truths and and lies about the deep state
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02-19-2020, 09:41 AM
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Agolf's running the same con as always. Agolf's just claiming to drain the swamp but he's letting Faux tell him what to do or cold hard cash is doing the talking.
Friend? Friend of a friend? Famous? Spent time on Faux? Commit a white collar crime? You've got a very good chance of being considered for a pardon in Twittler's world.
Paul Pogue, was issued a full pardon and clemency.
According to the FEC, his family has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct contributions and in-kind air travel to the Trump Victory Committee.
In August alone, Ben Pogue donated $85,000 to Trump Victory while Ashleigh Pogue contributed $50,000 that month. The following month, Ben Pogue made an in-kind air travel contribution of $75,404.40. The couple also made several large donations to the Republican National Committee and each donated $5,600 to Donald Trump for President Inc.
Wonder when he will pardon Charles Kushner?
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02-19-2020, 09:56 AM
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people committed suicide because of what madoff did to them. Find a better analogy.
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02-19-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
But again this is cloked in half truths and and lies about the deep state
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what is really happening is trump is making room in the prisons for all of the people that are going to prison when Durham and Barr compete their work
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02-19-2020, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
It’s not the number of pardons, it’s who you pardon that tells the story.
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exactly
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02-19-2020, 10:44 AM
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you guys have lost your minds...I hope you find them
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02-19-2020, 11:45 AM
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What Blagojevich did is not a problem in Agolf Twittler's mind, it's his SOP.
The Judge who sentenced Blagojevich said “In the United States we don’t much govern at gunpoint. We require willing and creative cooperation and participation to prosper as a civil society. This happens most easily when people trust the person at the top to do the right thing most of the time and, more important than that, to try to do it all of the time. ... When it is the governor who goes bad, the fabric of Illinois is torn and disfigured and not easily or quickly repaired. You did that damage.”
Former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and the three trial lawyers who prosecuted Blagojevich issued a reminder that said in part:
"The criminal conduct for which a jury unanimously convicted Mr. Blagojevich included the following actions:
"(1) extorting the CEO of a children’s hospital by withholding important state funding to help sick children until the CEO provided campaign contributions;
"(2) extorting the owners of a racetrack by intentionally holding up the signing of important state legislation until the owners provided campaign contributions in response to an explicit demand for them;
"(3) extortionately demanding funding for a high-paying private sector job, as well as campaign contributions, in exchange for naming a replacement to an open U.S. Senate seat; and
“(4) lying to the FBI to cover up his criminal activity.”
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-19-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What Blagojevich did is not a problem in Agolf Twittler's mind, it's his SOP.
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Not a problem? Blago aced the job interview.
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02-19-2020, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
what is really happening is trump is making room in the prisons for all of the people that are going to prison when Durham and Barr compete their work
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Funny you refer to it as Work... its called fishing
How do you investigate a crime you plead guilty to? Aka Flynn
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02-19-2020, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Funny you refer to it as Work... its called fishing
How do you investigate a crime you plead guilty to? Aka Flynn
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Apparently, you go Nike.
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02-20-2020, 05:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
What Blagojevich did is not a problem in Agolf Twittler's mind, it's his SOP.
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"People from across the political spectrum and from varied backgrounds have expressed support for shortening Mr. Blagojevich’s sentence, including Senator #^^^^& Durbin, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Sr., former Representative Bob Barr, Representatives Bobby Rush and Danny Davis, former Attorney General Eric Holder, and Bishop Byron Brazier. Additionally, more than a hundred of Mr. Blagojevich’s fellow inmates have written letters in support of reducing his sentence."
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02-20-2020, 06:51 AM
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Fox. News has Blagojevich on last night
He blows Trump on air
Then says he did nothing wrong but was a victim of lawlessness prosecutors
Blagojevich appeared to echo the president, who called the Chicagoan's case "another Comey gang deal."
Comey wasn't even in any office in 2011
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02-20-2020, 06:57 AM
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probably a metaphor
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02-20-2020, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Fox. News has Blagojevich on last night
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as a disgraced democrat who did jail time I guess we should expect him to have a show on MSNBC soon
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02-20-2020, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Madoff is wondering what he did wrong to be left out
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Easy... his family members don't have the funds left to donate enough to Trump's reelection campaign
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-20-2020, 09:02 AM
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Madoff is different. He stole from the ruling class. Everyone else was convicted of crimes that screw over the common man. There’s a big difference. Madoff will die in jail. No one ever screws over the ruling class and gets away with it.
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02-20-2020, 04:23 PM
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:QUOTE=Nebe;1186521]Madoff is different. He stole from the ruling class. Everyone else was convicted of crimes that screw over the common man. There’s a big difference. Madoff will die in jail. No one ever screws over the ruling class and gets away with it.
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