Market tanks 1900 points

[wdmso]

Trump: Payroll Tax Cuts And Hourly Worker Relief Possible In Coronavirus Response

Or is this for the markets


From no big deal to this ?? More confusion.....

If this is still around in September plenty of seats at Octoberfest if they even have it ..

[Pete F.]

On February 27th, Italy had 600 people confirmed infected with coronavirus.

Today, it has 10,000 cases and the entire country is on lockdown.

That was 11 DAYS AGO.

Guess how many the US had yesterday: 600

THAT is exponential growth. Do the math.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

On February 27th, Italy had 600 people confirmed infected with coronavirus.

Today, it has 10,000 cases and the entire country is on lockdown.

That was 11 DAYS AGO.

Guess how many the US had yesterday: 600

THAT is exponential growth. Do the math.

i’ll ask again, what are you rooting for here? i know what you’re rooting for, just curious if you’ll admit it out loud. Whatever it takes to topple the current administration.

we’re probably going to be way into the thousands.

wonder what your reaction was, when trump restricted people
coming here from china on day one. did you call him a racist xenophobe? be honest, you did, didn’t you?

this is a serious situation. is anyone denying that? it’s also not trumps fault. will you concede that? or do you blame
him?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wonder what your reaction was, when trump restricted people
coming here from china on day one. did you call him a racist xenophobe? be honest, you did, didn’t you?
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You’ve mentioned this several times now without any evidence any of it occurred. Besides Trump says who?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You’ve mentioned this several times now without any evidence any of it occurred. Besides Trump says who?
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Here, the NY Times, heretofore not known as being overly sympathetic to President Trump, discusses it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/b...ronavirus.html

Are you denying that the administration put restrictions on who could come here from China a few weeks ago? You're denying that happened? I'm making it up?

Or, can you not bring yourself to admit it, because now such restrictions would appear to have been smart?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Here, the NY Times, heretofore not known as being overly sympathetic to President Trump, discusses it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/b...ronavirus.html

Are you denying that the administration put restrictions on who could come here from China a few weeks ago? You're denying that happened? I'm making it up?

Or, can you not bring yourself to admit it, because now such restrictions would appear to have been smart?

Good summary of the conditions at the time.
Where in the article did it say people were calling him a racist xenophobe?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Good summary of the conditions at the time.
Where in the article did it say people were calling him a racist xenophobe?

The article didn't mention it. I've yet to hear many liberals admit that they have a habit of calling everyone who disagree with them about anything, a bigot. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time. Liberals aren't shy about denying irrefutable, factual, empirical evidence. This is why liberals in CT claim that tax-and-spend is our solution, despite evidence to the contrary, which doesn't deter liberals.

I googled "Trump racist China travel coronavirus", here's a sample of what I got as a result...

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...ainst-disease/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trum...181922522.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/606610/

Just look at the headlines...

Bryan, I'm right-leaning, I proudly admit that (though I agree with liberals on gay marriage, the death penalty, and to some degree gun policy). But I don't make stuff up. I am at least as capable as anyone of being incorrect, but I don't lie. If I had to lie to support my beliefs, I'd change my beliefs. That's why I cherish my beliefs, because truth and common sense make them so easy to defend.

Spence refuses to concede that there was any kind of travel restrictions initiated by Trump. I saw the liberal response, I read some of these articles. I'm not saying the democrats running for president accused the restrictions of being racist, but many in the media did. Those restrictions were OBVIOUSLY necessary (likely didn't go far enough), they were implemented to try and save lives, but the media used it as a club against him, because they hate him.

On this board, Pete said explicitly that the stock market drop wasn't because of the virus but a sign that people don't trust Trump, and WDMSO says that Trump's plan to provide some income guarantees to hourly workers, is really a sinister plot to help the markets instead of helping working people. Trump can't do anything right for a lot of thee people, that's obviously true. Trump brings a lot of criticism on himself - a whole lot. He's a crude, crass, jerk, and a pathetic excuse for a husband and a father. None of that can be denied. But there's all kinds of evidence that he does have some empathy for those less fortunate. Many here can't bring themselves to admit that. I don't include you in that group, you're very reasonable.

Now since you know a lot about science, do you have any idea how they may have traced the origins of the virus to Chinese people eating a weird looking animal? How do scientists answer these questions so quickly? Never ceases to amaze me.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Good summary of the conditions at the time.
Where in the article did it say people were calling him a racist xenophobe?

I’d note the only article Jim linked that supported his accusation was the People’s World

Jim, one of the reasons you can’t support what you say is because you have a chronic habit of projecting what you think people believe onto them. It’s not what they believe, it’s what you believe which is why you’re so often wrong.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump: Payroll Tax Cuts And Hourly Worker Relief Possible In Coronavirus Response

Or is this for the markets


From no big deal to this ?? More confusion.....

If this is still around in September plenty of seats at Octoberfest if they even have it ..

So it's not a good thing to try to guarantee hourly workers that they'll get paid in the event they cannot go to work?

For the second time, if Trump thinks this is nothing, why did he restrict people coming here from China on day one, for which he was called a bigot by the Chinese? Why did he do that, if he thinks this is nothing?

I have no doubt you're confused. When you go all-in on the notion that he's Genghis Khan, and then he proposes a plan to help the people who might need the most help, it can be confusing. To the rest of us, who view him as a deeply flawed person who occasionally gets it very right, it's less confusing.

If he wanted to help the markets, there are ways of doing it much more directly than providing relief to hourly workers.

If Trump helps the markets (which his corporate tax cuts did), you attack him for not caring about the little guy - and there's fairness to that criticism But when he proposes to help the little guy, you accuse him of secretly trying to help the markets. And that's TDS displaying itself.

WDMSO, what can the guy do, short of killing himself, that would make you feel obligated to admit he did something good? Youre not being rational. All you do, is put sinister spin on everything he does.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it's not a good thing to try to guarantee hourly workers that they'll get paid in the event they cannot go to work?

For the second time, if Trump thinks this is nothing, why did he restrict people coming here from China on day one, for which he was called a bigot by the Chinese? Why did he do that, if he thinks this is nothing?

I have no doubt you're confused. When you go all-in on the notion that he's Genghis Khan, and then he proposes a plan to help the people who might need the most help, it can be confusing. To the rest of us, who view him as a deeply flawed person who occasionally gets it very right, it's less confusing.

If he wanted to help the markets, there are ways of doing it much more directly than providing relief to hourly workers.

If Trump helps the markets (which his corporate tax cuts did), you attack him for not caring about the little guy - and there's fairness to that criticism But when he proposes to help the little guy, you accuse him of secretly trying to help the markets. And that's TDS displaying itself.

WDMSO, what can the guy do, short of killing himself, that would make you feel obligated to admit he did something good? Youre not being rational. All you do, is put sinister spin on everything he does.

Jim you have a great ability to not see the big picture . and read to much into things

On one hand Trump basically says its no big deal... Market Tanks 1900 points .. then its we are going to remove the payroll tax to help the people affected by the the virus thats isn't a big deal..

question if your not working because of the virus because your sick or
not working because the virus has impacted your profession ..

how does the payroll tax suspension help?..


in Davos, Switzerland, last month, Trump maintained that the coronavirus was “totally under control” and that he wasn’t concerned about the risk of a pandemic. “It’s going to be just fine,” he said.

[Pete F.]

And he still is, some are claiming Biden's senile.