Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread

[Nebe]

Bart.. I think you should review how many posts I have made in the political forum in the last 6 months before you use me as an example.
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[piemma]

Well, this whole thing certainly went south rather quickly.

[Rmarsh]

"In The USA 34,000 people died of the flu last year. The year before there was 61,000 deaths from the flu in the states"........

"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

Why weren't we as concerned then as we are now?
If these figures are correct... we might be overreacting. I realize the death toll from this virus is still rising.
Maybe it was reported, but I don't remember hearing anything about it at the time...... I think something strange is happening within our news and social media?

[Got Stripers]

Government closing all public schools, forcing all restaurants and bars to do take out only and ban any public gathering over 25 people in Mass is going to kill so many hourly and service workers. I’m not happy with what the market crash has taken out of my retirement account, but I can’t imagine the financial impact to a younger family.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

"In The USA 34,000 people died of the flu last year. The year before there was 61,000 deaths from the flu in the states"........

"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

Why weren't we as concerned then as we are now?
If these figures are correct... we might be overreacting. I realize the death toll from this virus is still rising.
Maybe it was reported, but I don't remember hearing anything about it at the time...... I think something strange is happening within our news and social media?

If you have watched enough news to see what happened to Italy then you might stop comparing this to the flu. Just saying. Their obituary pages just increased tenfold last week.
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[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

If you have watched enough news to see what happened to Italy then you might stop comparing this to the flu. Just saying. Their obituary pages just increased tenfold last week.
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I'm not saying people wont die...all lives matter .... I have a 93 year old mom and 100 year old MIL both in nursing homes and at a much greater risk than young people in good health.....but as of today under 100 deaths in the US.

So I'm optimistic about our chances of stopping the spread and developing a vaccine in the near future. I try to not let fear run my life. I'm all for taking precautions.... panicking will not help one make better decisions.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

....but as of today under 100 deaths in the US.

and a large number of those in one state and in one facility....there is no other place in the world I'd rather be in terms of medical treatment

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

I'm not saying people wont die...all lives matter .... I have a 93 year old mom and 100 year old MIL both in nursing homes and at a much greater risk than young people in good health.....but as of today under 100 deaths in the US.

So I'm optimistic about our chances of stopping the spread and developing a vaccine in the near future. I try to not let fear run my life. I'm all for taking precautions.... panicking will not help one make better decisions.

This^
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

This^
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I think less hanging one's hat on a potential vaccine and more planning for your family unit to emerge five months from now intact physically and fiscally. If it requires anything from quarantine to isolation, how prepared are you? How much cash on hand? Have you gotten the necessary paperwork done in the case you need to withdraw (early?) from a retirement account?

This is how my mind looks at this...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

.....but as of today under 100 deaths in the US.

Just two weeks ago Italy was at 34 deaths...
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[piemma]

Originally Posted by spence

Just two weeks ago Italy was at 34 deaths...
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So what the #^&#^&#^&#^& is your point Jeff? You looking forward to an escalation here in the US. Just go live your life. I posted this before and I will here again. It's what we were taught in combat training:

Don't worry about what you can't control. Just go and control what you can. CYA!!!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Bart.. I think you should review how many posts I have made in the political forum in the last 6 months before you use me as an example.
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it's not your quantity...it's your QUALITY

seriously....hope everyone keeps their head and gets through this better on the other side for having gone through it...not the first or last time we've been or will be tested in some way....check in with your elderly friends, remember many of them are alone and might be more isolate than ever now.. and remind them of the things they need to avoid like unnecessary trips.....my Dad was headed out somewhere Saturday morning and I asked..."where are you going?".... he said "Lowes"...I said "oh, good, probably not crowded at Lowes on a Saturday morning"..he could have gotten the bottle of silicone that he really didn't need at the local hardware store but wanted to browse... I said...."do you have hand sanitizer?"...I got a blank confused look like...what's that?? I handed him a bottle from my car...he checks every box for most vulnerable group not just for this but any flu but doesn't acknowledge it...just limit your exposure to others as much as possible...I try to do that through the winter flu months anyway and do the best to control the things that we can control...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Bart.. I think you should review how many posts I have made in the political forum in the last 6 months before you use me as an example.
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He will be gone faster than he showed back up. Last time he posted,he deleted the post and disappeared into thin air til yesterday. I guess this is the fray🙀
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[Got Stripers]

Dr. Oz was just interviewed by channel 25, where he stated that if these extreme measures mass and others are taking aren’t adopted, the modeling showed half the US infected and deaths over one million. That isn’t comforting with how this administration started so slowly to understand how radical preventive measures needed to be.

[bloocrab]

I'm no rocketship, but how can comparisons of an annual death rate caused by influenza be compared to a virus that IMO is still in it's infancy stage of roughly 3 months?
I don't believe we have enough analytical data to support anything at this point (in regards to comparisons). Maybe the gov. is trying to keep the crazies at bay with some of their reports, so maybe that's why they're using that as a comparison?
We don't even know the long term affect that this may cause because again, we don't have the data to support that yet. Could a person who did get infected and survived, now have a compromised immune system or respiratory system? I've read that it's in ways similar to the SARS/MERS CoV...having possibly originated in bats, but if it's continuing to evolve, what type of long term affect could it have on a survivor?

I'm not the paranoid type, nor a conspiratorian (yep, my own word)... but with a young child and elderly parents, thinking I'm going to side with caution and limit our attendance to group events etc/.
May get a few extra packages of chicken and turkey to store in the freezer, but the toilet paper is not needed. I chit ice cream, so my turds get recycled....

Be safe, ...but if you happen to contract this virus, please limit your posts to the political forum, that seems to be the only forum that needs thinning (I heard the virus has evolved into a "hacking" virus...so it can be transmitted via the www),..

**As a sidenote, the few times that I have entered the forum, (who's name should never be spoken)... I always thought y'all debated in jest, but as it's leaked out on to the main page, youze guys are seriously making enemies?? That part I don't get.

Peace brethren ...it's legal now, go get yourself some and chill-axe... life's 2 short.

[Clammer]

a few of you guys have turned what was suppose to be a tread

on the virus , to a he,s a , its A .pissing war …...SAD

[bart]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

He will be gone faster than he showed back up. Last time he posted,he deleted the post and disappeared into thin air til yesterday. I guess this is the fray🙀
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You’re a clown Chris. I’d happily tell you that to your face anytime. And I didn’t delete #^&#^&#^&#^&, my posts are gone.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by bart

You’re a clown Chris. I’d happily tell you that to your face anytime. And I didn’t delete #^&#^&#^&#^&, my posts are gone.
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I look forward to it Rob. Good luck!
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[piemma]

Originally Posted by bart

You’re a clown Chris. I’d happily tell you that to your face anytime. And I didn’t delete #^&#^&#^&#^&, my posts are gone.
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Would you stop this #^&#^&#^&#^&.

[Jimbo]

If you got a stimulus check for someone who is deceased (DECD) you have to return it. Apparently on the front of the envelope it came in there's a box and it says, "IF RECIPIENT IS DECEASED Check here and drop in mailbox". Then again I read something else that said NBC had posted that the IRS may let heirs cash the check, so I think I'll just hang on to it for now.

[Guppy]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

If you got a stimulus check for someone who is deceased (DECD) you have to return it. Apparently on the front of the envelope it came in there's a box and it says, "IF RECIPIENT IS DECEASED Check here and drop in mailbox". Then again I read something else that said NBC had posted that the IRS may let heirs cash the check, so I think I'll just hang on to it for now.

I have an address for u or I’ll pick up

[Rmarsh]

My wife showed me a picture of one of the nurses at the nursing home.....her face raw and nearly bleeding from wearing protective masks and headgear for the last few weeks....I'm not ashamed to say it moved me to tears. Real heroes...I know her and she is one tough broad.