Fauci estimated US death toll now he is a anti Trumper

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You talking about Trump?..

I am talking about broken records.
👌
The guys who have been repeating themselves for 3 years.
🤡⛑🤡⛑🤡⛑🤡⛑
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[Pete F.]

Unfortunately, the light he sees is from the train coming
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[Sea Dangles]

Chew
Chew
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The guys who have been repeating themselves for 3 years.

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literally repeating themselves day after day...perhaps the... means justify the....something something

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

literally repeating themselves day after day...perhaps the... means justify the....something something

The bedroom fans of SB, just humming away providing white noise in the background.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

literally repeating themselves day after day...perhaps the... means justify the....something something

I know, if I have to read SD post best president of our lifetime, it might break the record for the most meaningless repost record of all time.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I know, if I have to read SD post best president of our lifetime, it might break the record for the most meaningless repost record of all time.

I will holster my opinion regarding our President if you can do the same.
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[Pete F.]

79 days since first case

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

US 400,000+ infected
13,000+ dead

SK
10,000+ infected
200 dead

Trump never rates his criminally-derelict leadership less than a “10.”

Why would he? Between January and mid-March Trump proved that, in matters of life and death, his base will believe anything—until he tells them to believe something else.

[wdmso]

Just in it's now the World Health Organizations Fault , for Covid 19

Maybe he listened to the B 52. It's just a party out of bounds


Who's to blame when parties really get out of hand?
Who's to blame when they get poorly planned?

People get sick, they play the wrong games
You know, it could ruin your name......

[Sea Dangles]

Keep up the social distancing
Stop the spread👍🏿
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Just in it's now the World Health Organizations Fault , for Covid 19

Maybe he listened to the B 52. It's just a party out of bounds


Who's to blame when parties really get out of hand?
Who's to blame when they get poorly planned?

People get sick, they play the wrong games
You know, it could ruin your name......

so Trump criticizes the WHO, and shockingly, your reaction is that Trump couldn’t possibly have a valid criticism.

Are you saying the WHO did a good job in the early days?

i swear to god, if Trump said “two plus two is four”, people here would
shriek “the hell it is!”.

Wayne, please tell us who claimed
this is all the WHO’s fault? Or admit you made that up.

do you ever, ever stop
and think?

Trump criticized the WHO. You can’t comment on the validity of his criticism, so you make the absurd and blatantly dishonest leap to claim Trump blames the WHO.

When you can’t respond to what was actually said, you can always lie about what was said and respond to something that no one ever said.

And then you accuse the right of going to stupid lengths to protect him, but you can’t see that you’re going to stupid lengths to attack him.
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[Pete F.]

Every president for the last 20 years has predicted the eventuality of a pandemic and preached preparedness. Except for Trump*.

He was busy saving us from threats enlarged by his own puffery.

All he has done with this pandemic is claim it was nothing to worry about until it became unavoidable.

Now the blame is being cast in all directions.

He's not missing any opportunity to point a finger and feign innocence.

I do not imply that anyone should escape culpability, but it does not mean at all that he did a perfect job and rates a "10".

Trump* has prioritized politics over public health, exactly what he criticizes the Chinese and WHO for doing when COVID-19 emerged.

Trump* blames everyone else in a pathetic effort to shift blame for his own inept leadership, his citizens struggle and now China is laying the groundwork for global leadership in the post-COVID-19 era.

Thanks to Trump*, the US will almost certainly lose countless lives and it's standing in the world.

[Sea Dangles]

He is clearly the greatest president of In the history of our country
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[Pete F.]

We are certainly in the lead on the Pandemic Reality Show.
Apparently some people think that is the definition of greatness.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so Trump criticizes the WHO, and shockingly, your reaction is that Trump couldn’t possibly have a valid criticism.

Are you saying the WHO did a good job in the early days?

i swear to god, if Trump said “two plus two is four”, people here would
shriek “the hell it is!”.

Wayne, please tell us who claimed
this is all the WHO’s fault? Or admit you made that up.

do you ever, ever stop
and think?

Trump criticized the WHO. You can’t comment on the validity of his criticism, so you make the absurd and blatantly dishonest leap to claim Trump blames the WHO.

When you can’t respond to what was actually said, you can always lie about what was said and respond to something that no one ever said.

And then you accuse the right of going to stupid lengths to protect him, but you can’t see that you’re going to stupid lengths to attack him.
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Watch a briefing .. it might help .. Trump is criticizing the WHO in his endless blame game. His validity was telling lies and mis quotes. Then TRUMP starts parroting a host on fox 5 about mail in ballots and fraud.

You suggest I attack Trump. Not sure how one can attack someone based on what they actually said and did or not do ?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

We are certainly in the lead on the Pandemic Reality Show.
Apparently some people think that is the definition of greatness.
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pete...you are your own reality show...you should watch your self...you'd be amused

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Watch a briefing .. it might help .. Trump is criticizing the WHO in his endless blame game. His validity was telling lies and mis quotes. Then TRUMP starts parroting a host on fox 5 about mail in ballots and fraud.

You suggest I attack Trump. Not sure how one can attack someone based on what they actually said and did or not do ?

"Trump is criticizing the WHO"

(1) Is that the same as Trump saying it's all their fault? Because that's what you claim he said.

(2) In your opinion, the WHO doesn't deserve criticism for their response?

"You suggest I attack Trump"

Everyone here knows that's what you're doing. You are claiming he said things, which he very came close to saying.

If you want to say he didn't do enough early on, made some statements that turned out to be waaaayy off, that he blames others for his mistakes? All of that's fine. But why lie about what he said, unless you are attaching him as a manifestation of your TDS? WHy not point out when others said some of the same things he said?

Biden said the Chinese travel restrictions weren't necessary. No Biden has completely flip-flopped on that. And we all know who you're voting for. So you don't care when democrats were way, way wrong. Only when Trump is.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

pete...you are your own reality show...you should watch your self...you'd be amused

After Season 3, it’s safe to say it’s “Jumped the Shark”
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[Pete F.]

For three years the Chosen One has bullied and bull#^&#^&#^&#^&ted his way till he met a real crisis.

In addition to destroying the means of monitoring the danger of pandemic in the NSC, he allowed the removal of the ability to monitor pandemics worldwide firsthand.

If you think that he was not told about Covid-19 and the dangers starting in November you are smoking too much dope.
If it was in the National Intelligence Daily at that time, it certainly would have been brought up in the President's Daily Brief.
Think that a total shutdown of a province in China escaped our satellite surveillance, but piles of urns outside funeral homes is known, really?

This administration failed to take the necessary steps to save american lives, not for lack of knowledge but because it was hoped that it would just go away one day, like a miracle. Don't say anything it will upset the economy, make the DOW drop and possibly hurt my election chances.

All the records exist that will show what was known, the decisions made and we are now seeing what happens when we elect a malignant narcissist as President.
I'm amazed that you are impressed and believe that he is even a semi-capable president, all he has done is proven what I thought since he came down the escalator.
He is a conman.
He has spent his whole life scamming people.
He still is running the con.
He cannot stop because without the con, he is nothing.

His daily rally is on now, you better go watch.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

We can now read the Imperial College report on COVID-19 that led to the extreme measures we've seen in the US this week. Read it; it's terrifying. I'll offer a summary in this thread; please correct me if I've gotten it wrong.

Here's what would happen: 80% of Americans would get the disease. 0.9% of them would die. Between 4 and 8 percent of all Americans over the age of 70 would die. 2.2 million Americans would die from the virus itself.

It gets worse. People with severe COVID-19 need to be put on ventilators. 50% of those on ventilators still die, but the other 50% live. But in an unmitigated epidemic, the need for ventilators would be 30 times the number available in the US. Nearly 100% of these patients die.

So the actual death toll from the virus would be closer to 4 million Americans -- in a span of 3 months. 8-15% of all Americans over 70 would die.

How many is 4 million people? It's more Americans than have died all at once from anything, ever. It's the population of Los Angeles. It's 4 times the number of Americans who died in the Civil War...on both sides combined. It's two-thirds as many people as died in the Holocaust.

hey pete...if millions of americans don't die in the coming weeks as you predicted, an outcome which I'm sure will greatly disappoint you...will you give him some credit?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

hey pete...if millions of americans don't die in the coming weeks as you predicted, an outcome which I'm sure will greatly disappoint you...will you give him some credit?

Is there any question that he'll give him some credit?

Not only will he not give him credit, he won't admit the modelers were wrong, unless they are republicans.

[scottw]

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

Did you notice that when a hurricane was coming the media would try its best to scare everyone to death to evacuate and run for the hills to lower death tolls along the coastal flood plains??? It’s the same here. They gave huge numbers to scare everyone into locking down. I’m cool with it.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

if the modelers keep remodeling their models who knows where we'll end up in the next couple of weeks but I'm not disappointed over the fact that many fewer are dying compared to projections so far....seems as though the critical thinkers in the media and elsewhere were very invested in a high body count

Actually seems that the model was assuming only 50-60% social distancing. Actually been closer to 90% so much less spread. People actually listened, mostly, so far.

Still a ways to go especially if another city(ies) become new hot spots.
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[scottw]

all I said was I'm glad they are moving in a good direction...you guys are WAY too sensitive

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Did you notice that when a hurricane was coming the media would try its best to scare everyone to death to evacuate and run for the hills to lower death tolls along the coastal flood plains??? It’s the same here. They gave huge numbers to scare everyone into locking down. I’m cool with it.
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No, that's not all they did. Very early on, after Trump issued the travel restrictions, MANY in the mainstream media downplayed the severity of the virus, saying that Trumps restrictions were a stupid over reaction, that the virus wasn't that bad, that we had more to fear from government over-reach than from the virus. You conveniently left that part out.

Headlines from the Washington Post, very much a mainstream media outlet...

“Get a grippe, America. The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus, for now,” read a Post story from Feb. 1, written by a Post staffer.

“How our brains make coronavirus seem scarier than it is,” read another Post story, from Jan. 31, written by a guest commenter from Harvard University.

“Why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus,” read the third headline, from a Feb. 3 Post article co-authored by two academics from Northwestern University

And again, on February 27, Nancy Pelosi was wandering on San Francisco's Chinatown district, telling her citizens to go out to crowded public places.

But only Trump made any mistakes.

[Pete F.]

The White House was warned repeatedly in November & December 2019 that the US military's National Center for Medical Intelligence concluded the outbreak in China could be a “cataclysmic event”.

“I would view it as something that surprised the whole world.”
~Trump, 3/19/20

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Actually seems that the model was assuming only 50-60% social distancing. Actually been closer to 90% so much less spread. People actually listened, mostly, so far.

Still a ways to go especially if another city(ies) become new hot spots.
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Nobody is happier than our President to see the trend. Not a miracle of course but also a far cry from the worst case scenario that some seemed blame on Trump. It’s great to see the country pull together with a common goal.👍🏿
Let’s hope the trend continues and we can all enjoy the low price at the pump this summer. Throw in some calm seas and we are golden.
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[Pete F.]

I see one guy spinning here, just keep believing this liar, covering up his gaslighting and incompetence while Americans die. More than Wars, hopefully not as many as all combined.
And remember your enabling when your friends and relatives ask after a Hundred Thousand or more Americans die: What did you say when Trump said in response to: "Are you concerned about a pandemic?": “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. … It’s going to be just fine.”?
Pelosi should have done something, really?

GFY





Greatest President ever?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

all I said was I'm glad they are moving in a good direction...you guys are WAY too sensitive

I didn't claim otherwise. Was just adding context.
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