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Originally Posted by wdmso

The Epoch Times Chinese Americans own it

On its face, this remark is merely and conspicuously irrelevant. But there must be for you some important, essential, significance in Chinese Americans owning a news agency since you begin your post with it. And, I'm presuming, since you consider The Epoch Times biased, lacking in appropriate "credentials," and conspiratorial, that the significance would be something in the nature of Chinese Americans not being trustworthy, otherwise what's your point? Under the revised, Progressive, definition of racism, your comment is not merely irrelevant, it is racist.

it has become known for its support of U.S. President Donald Trump and favorable coverage of far-right politicians in Europe;

And the N.Y. Times is known for its support of Democrats, and favorable coverage of far-left politicians in Europe, and for being rabidly anti-Trump. And the Washington Post is not much less so. And CNN is, if possible, even more rabidly more leftist biased when it comes to Trump. And don't even mention MSNBC which is off the charts Dumbo. Does this make them better than Epoch Times"?

a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign.

If true, that's perfectly legitimate. There have been consistent reports that show that 90% or more of journalists for left wing media such as the N.Y. Times, the WAPost, NBC, CNN, ABC, Public Broadcasting, etc., support and contribute to the Democrats.

The group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.

I don't subscribe to those "conspiracy theories," nor have I posted any such. But the "group" has some excellent YouTube videos, as well as a widely subscribed to and worldwide distributed newspaper which has excellent articles which are well researched, accurate, and compare well to our left wing news sites, especially in having been far more accurate and correct in analyzing the Trump/Russia conspiracy, impeachment, Communist China affairs, and ahead of the rest on informing about the CCP and its coverup of its spread of covid-19.

It is those videos that I post, and which you never have been able to refute. You always have depended on the kill-the-messenger tactic to try to discredit them.

And our mainstream media all have some weird sites and talking head personalities who have consistently been wrong about all the above and more. And CNN and NYT, as well as others to a bit lesser degree, have basically supported what amounts to a conspiracy theory in the way they covered the whole Trump/Russia hoax from beginning to end.

opinion and spin. thats all the guy did in your your video . But thats fine because you believe it ... and if it was such profound reporting . why is it only on youtube ??

His presentation is factual, precise, and on the mark. And you can't refute it.

your sources have some of the worse credentials and lets not go down the Bias road

The Bias Road is a massive highway that all media and most people travel on. And makers of "credentials" as well as "fact checkers" travel its side-streets as well. So, for me, the message, insofar as I personally can believe it, is far, far, more important than the messenger, or any press pass, certificates, or various fruit salad baubles on his vest. Not to discount them. But to not let them alone convince me. The message is what counts.

And when you consistently discount it, not on its words and ideas, but simply on who delivers it, and you cannot when asked to point out how it is wrong, then you're a fraud.

Or maybe that's giving you too much credit. Fraudulence is usually intentional. Maybe you're just satisfied to be ignorant of any thing that is not mouthed by your comfort sources.