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04-24-2020, 02:10 PM
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If any of your kids wife or relatives made such a suggestion .. I
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What did he suggest, exactly? Did he suggest anything? Or did he ask if something was possible?
He asked a doctor, if there's any way that products that kill the virus, could be injected. He specifically said that these products "do a number on the lungs", and he said that's why we need to bring doctors into this.
Every single day, thousands of Americans are dying. If a product is known to kill the virus, what harm does it do, to ask a doctor if there's any way it could be used to help? You think that pursuing seemingly nonsensical ideas have never, in the history of mankind, led to helpful breakthroughs?
What would you have said to the first farmer who asked a doctor, "hey, if I take piles and piles and piles of animal feces, can I spread it in my garden on top of the vegetables i'm trying to grow, is that a good idea"? What would your answer have been? Or your answer to the first person who suggested taking a human heart out of one person, and putting it in another person? I had a gigantic kidney stone a few years ago, that they reduced by bombarding me with ultrasound waves. Who the hell thought of that?
What would you have said to the first oncologist who proposed treating cancer by exposing patients to radiation? How insane did that sound, until we discovered it worked?
We don't know what's possible, until we try.
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04-24-2020, 05:25 PM
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What did he suggest, exactly? Did he suggest anything? Or did he ask if something was possible?
He asked a doctor, if there's any way that products that kill the virus, could be injected. He specifically said that these products "do a number on the lungs", and he said that's why we need to bring doctors into this.
Every single day, thousands of Americans are dying. If a product is known to kill the virus, what harm does it do, to ask a doctor if there's any way it could be used to help? You think that pursuing seemingly nonsensical ideas have never, in the history of mankind, led to helpful breakthroughs?
What would you have said to the first farmer who asked a doctor, "hey, if I take piles and piles and piles of animal feces, can I spread it in my garden on top of the vegetables i'm trying to grow, is that a good idea"? What would your answer have been? Or your answer to the first person who suggested taking a human heart out of one person, and putting it in another person? I had a gigantic kidney stone a few years ago, that they reduced by bombarding me with ultrasound waves. Who the hell thought of that?
What would you have said to the first oncologist who proposed treating cancer by exposing patients to radiation? How insane did that sound, until we discovered it worked?
We don't know what's possible, until we try.
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What did he suggest are you serious ? Why would any competent adult suggest anything so outrageous
Let's put babies in the microwave because we dont know what's possible.... what do you think DR brix
No because normal humans know what will happen if you put a baby in a microwave wave so normal people dont suggest such thing But Trump that's different he can suggest anything stupid and you'll rationalize it away.
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04-24-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
What did he suggest are you serious ? Why would any competent adult suggest anything so outrageous
Let's put babies in the microwave because we dont know what's possible.... what do you think DR brix
No because normal humans know what will happen if you put a baby in a microwave wave so normal people dont suggest such thing But Trump that's different he can suggest anything stupid and you'll rationalize it away.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-24-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
What did he suggest are you serious ? Why would any competent adult suggest anything so outrageous
Let's put babies in the microwave because we dont know what's possible.... what do you think DR brix
No because normal humans know what will happen if you put a baby in a microwave wave so normal people dont suggest such thing But Trump that's different he can suggest anything stupid and you'll rationalize it away.
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so you don’t get the difference between asking if something is possible, and suGgesting that people do it? he said “is there a way”
the CDC is doing clinical trials to see if chlorine ( a disinfectant that can kill
millions) can be effective. if those geniuses thought it was worth trying, why was it stupid for trump to mention the possibility?
i’m all ears.
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04-24-2020, 06:26 PM
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so you don’t get the difference between asking if something is possible, and suGgesting that people do it? he said “is there a way”
the CDC is doing clinical trials to see if chlorine ( a disinfectant that can kill
millions) can be effective. if those geniuses thought it was worth trying, why was it stupid for trump to mention the possibility?
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As usual the reaction of the easily triggered snowflakes is far more ridiculous than anything trump has done
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04-24-2020, 06:31 PM
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As usual the reaction of the easily triggered snowflakes is far more ridiculous than anything trump has done
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right. his wording was bad, and you can argue he should say such things in private. but to say it was in its face, stupid to ask if there’s a posssibility?
The CDC is looking at chlorine as a possible vaccine, that’s a disinfectant that can be poisonous.
The vaccine must be based in a chemical that kills the virus. there are only so many chemicals that we know of, that kill the virus. if oreo cookies killed the virus, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. there are only so many chemicals that kill
the virus, why wouldn’t you look at every single one of them? if they can find a way to make radiation ( of all things!) beneficial, it’s stupid to ask if they can do it with disinfectants? Why?
But to these libs, every single
word that comes out of his mouth, cannot fail to be wrong. it all must be wrong. their brains can’t process the possibility he could
be right.
what will they do if he gets re elected?
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04-24-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so you don’t get the difference between asking if something is possible, and suGgesting that people do it? he said “is there a way”
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Trump would be well served to let scientists come up with the innovative solutions, not just make ridiculous crap up in desperation because you’ve lost most all control of the issue.
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the CDC is doing clinical trials to see if chlorine ( a disinfectant that can kill
millions) can be effective. if those geniuses thought it was worth trying, why was it stupid for trump to mention the possibility
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Says who?
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04-24-2020, 06:42 PM
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Trump would be well served to let scientists come up with the innovative solutions, not just make ridiculous crap up in desperation because you’ve lost most all control of the issue.
Says who?
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the national
library of
medicine.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04343742
if they thought it was worth studying, please tell me why it’s so bad for trump to ask if it’s a possibility.
have fun with that.
we should leave the science to scientists. why can’t someone ask if there a way to use a chemical
known to kill the virus, to treat those with the virus? why is that such a stupid thing to ask?
because orange man bad.
if radioactive material can be modified to be more beneficial than harmful, you’re saying it’s stupid to assume that the ingredients of Lysol can? Lysol is more lethal than radioactive material?
you’re not holding any cards here.
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04-24-2020, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the national
library of
medicine.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04343742
if they thought it was worth studying, please tell me why it’s so bad for trump to ask if it’s a possibility.
have fun with that.
we should leave the science to scientists. why can’t someone ask if there a way to use a chemical
known to kill the virus, to treat those with the virus? why is that such a stupid thing to ask?
because orange man bad.
if radioactive material can be modified to be more beneficial than harmful, you’re saying it’s stupid to assume that the ingredients of Lysol can? Lysol is more lethal than radioactive material?
you’re not holding any cards here.
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Jim, you know I don’t like to stoop to insults but once again your reading comprehension is really lacking.
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04-24-2020, 07:11 PM
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Jim, you know I don’t like to stoop to insults but once again your reading comprehension is really lacking.
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The use of light is also already being looked into. But Trump is wrong for asking about it.
https://irdirect.net/prviewer/releas...4mmXZ__ticzLeU
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04-24-2020, 07:15 PM
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Jim, you know I don’t like to stoop to insults but once again your reading comprehension is really lacking.
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To be honest with you, I've had enough of insults. So if instead of saying I'm wrong, could you maybe give a specific example? I am as capable as ANYONE of being wrong, and there have been times on this board where you showed me I was wrong, and you did so with support, and I agreed with you that I was wrong. But saying I'm wrong, or that I can't read, is a tad vague as I'm sure you'd agree. So if you can forgo the vague charges of being illiterate and tell me exactly what I got wrong, I will also try to raise the bar here. Any chance we can do that?
the link I posted, says the CDC is looking at the use of chlorine dioxide. I assume that chlorine dioxide includes chlorine (I could be wrong as I hated chemistry), but if it does, chlorine is also a disinfectant that can be lethal (or are you saying that statement is wrong?)
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04-24-2020, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so you don’t get the difference between asking if something is possible, and suGgesting that people do it? he said “is there a way”
the CDC is doing clinical trials to see if chlorine ( a disinfectant that can kill
millions) can be effective. if those geniuses thought it was worth trying, why was it stupid for trump to mention the possibility?
i’m all ears.
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For 1 the CDC nor the us government is involved in what you suggest
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04343742
Sponsor:
Genesis Foundation are conducting a 20 person trial
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Warns Seller Marketing Dangerous Chlorine Dioxide Products that Claim to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...products-claim
Chlorine dioxide. The compound has been fraudulently marketed as a cure for a wide range of diseases, including childhood autism[5] and COVID-19.[6][7][8] Children who have been given enemas of chlorine dioxide as a supposed cure for childhood autism have suffered life-threatening ailments and even died.
this clown can launch a nuke ... with out asking ... yet you trying to tell me he he was trying to articulate the idea you posted ??? Please. Funny takes a 2 min search and everything points against it ,,,, sounds like hydroxychloroquine shocking
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