Cuomo says no one should be prosecuted for covid deaths in NY

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

We will never know. Trump didn't try any of the above, and downplayed this for the first two months. Then yesterday he would do nothing different in his response.

Lots to learn at both the state and federal level on this one, we are lucky that this wasn't the 2-3% mortality otherwise we would have been #^&#^&#^&#^&ed.

True, and there are so many moving pieces, you can't assume that if we did what they did, the results would have been the same.

Bryan, is it relevant to point out, that the one thing Trump did back then (travel restrictions) was panned by the left as being an unnecessary overreaction?

It's easy, and not without some validity, to say Trump should have done more. But is there ANY reason to believe that democrats and the media would have been supportive if he went a lot further, back then? Back then, they were all saying that the virus wasn't as bad as the flu, that we didn't need to do anything drastic. I know that you don't suffer from the same selective amnesia that affects the other liberals here.

"lucky that this wasn't the 2-3% mortality otherwise we would have been #^&#^&#^&#^&ed"

100% agree.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

True, and there are so many moving pieces, you can't assume that if we did what they did, the results would have been the same.

Bryan, is it relevant to point out, that the one thing Trump did back then (travel restrictions) was panned by the left as being an unnecessary overreaction?

It's easy, and not without some validity, to say Trump should have done more. But is there ANY reason to believe that democrats and the media would have been supportive if he went a lot further, back then? Back then, they were all saying that the virus wasn't as bad as the flu, that we didn't need to do anything drastic. I know that you don't suffer from the same selective amnesia that affects the other liberals here.

"lucky that this wasn't the 2-3% mortality otherwise we would have been #^&#^&#^&#^&ed"

100% agree.

You may be correct on some of this, but sentiment pretty quickly changed on the travel ban.

I would have settled on just having a consistent, fair-minded message on this, and ramping up the stocks of PPE, rather than blaming the last guy who left office 3 years ago....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

You may be correct on some of this, but sentiment pretty quickly changed on the travel ban.

I would have settled on just having a consistent, fair-minded message on this, and ramping up the stocks of PPE, rather than blaming the last guy who left office 3 years ago....

"sentiment pretty quickly changed on the travel ban. '

I agree 100% on that. But at the time Trump restricted travel, he was advocating for more drastic measures, than most democrats and most in the media. So if Trump was wrong for not being more drastic, they were more wrong. That must be true. Because they wanted a less drastic response than what Trump called for.

"I would have settled on just having a consistent, fair-minded message on this"

Me too. And Trump isn't the guy for calm, consistent messaging. he's like George Steinbrenner in a panicked tirade, that's how I view his ability to communicate. He's not the guy I'd want to listen to, to restore calm and confidence. I'd trust his policies, but not his ability to articulate the policy in a reassuring way.

"ramping up the stocks of PPE"

He did do that, slowly, with help from the private sector.

We also blew the rollout of widespread testing. I'm not sure why, everyone points fingers, no one accepts responsibility, so I have no idea who to believe.