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06-10-2020, 11:29 AM
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Location: RI
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Originally Posted by scottw
ok....and nobody is calling for defunding the police
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Lots of people are, it just doesn't mean what you think it means. |
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06-10-2020, 12:33 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Originally Posted by spence
Lots of people are, it just doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Using ambiguous terms to describe a movement that impacts all of society certainly helps to distract from the conversation we all wish would be happening
The weird part of all of this is that I feel the terms other than "defund the police" have been used for years before this and never got the response/reaction they are getting now.
So maybe the reality is if people had listened in the past, words wouldn't be such a sticking point now. |
The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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06-10-2020, 12:53 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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When one of the Bush family denounces “systemic racism” and Mitt Romney marches for Black Lives Matter, you know something fundamental has changed.
The tides of public opinion have shifted and that's leaving Trump* stranded on a shrinking “law and order” island.
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06-10-2020, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
Using ambiguous terms to describe a movement that impacts all of society certainly helps to distract from the conversation we all wish would be happening
The weird part of all of this is that I feel the terms other than "defund the police" have been used for years before this and never got the response/reaction they are getting now.
So maybe the reality is if people had listened in the past, words wouldn't be such a sticking point now.
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I think it's just meant to be provocative. Hasn't had the audience attention until now. I don't think shrinking budgets to just appease is helpful, but it's a good dialogue to see how we can improve public health and safety, that may include defunding some of the police. |
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06-10-2020, 02:21 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I think it's just meant to be provocative. Hasn't had the audience attention until now. I don't think shrinking budgets to just appease is helpful, but it's a good dialogue to see how we can improve public health and safety, that may include defunding some of the police.
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Change is hard
This all being said, I believe there are some folks out there "in charge" of local municipalities who actually believe that a system-wide removal of law enforcement funding is what is being discussed, and are supportive of it. So the provocative nature of it is actually having a dual-edged effect.
Again, that might just be a casualty of war, but it doesn;t help the dialog on this forum because it fuels opposing opinions with facts. |
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