liberals going after cop shows

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

You’re the one calling people names...
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right, the liberals aren’t doing that. or it's ok when they do it.

same question to you, which is more destructive to the black community, police brutality ( 9 unarmed blacks killed by cops in the whole country in 2019), or urban violence (18 blacks
murdered in chicago on one day recently, May 31). which does more overall damage, and which gets all the media attention and focus?

spence and wdmso choose not to answer. because the answer doesn’t help their
narrative. which means they don’t care about answers, they care about the narrative.
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[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

right, the liberals aren’t doing that. or it's ok when they do it.

same question to you, which is more destructive to the black community, police brutality ( 9 unarmed blacks killed by cops in the whole country in 2019), or urban violence (18 blacks
murdered in chicago on one day recently, May 31). which does more overall damage, and which gets all the media attention and focus?

spence and wdmso choose not to answer. because the answer doesn’t help their
narrative. which means they don’t care about answers, they care about the narrative.
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Police brutality
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Ian

Police brutality
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based on what?

i give you credit for answering, although it’s an absurdly wrong answer.

in 2018, there were 7,400 black homicide victims.

i know math isn’t a strong suit for liberals, so here is a lesson.

9 < 7,400.




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[Ian]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

based on what?

i give you credit for answering, although it’s an absurdly wrong answer.

in 2018, there were 7,400 black homicide victims.

i know math isn’t a strong suit for liberals, so here is a lesson.

9 < 7,400.




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Before you dissect my point with in-line commentary and try to somehow prove it wrong, imagine for a second that I might be right. Imagine that simply saying, “you’re right, this is complex” might be a massive step forward for the way ideas are shared on this site. Imagine that not trying to argue this point might be ok.

The point has been made over and over: You’re comparing apples to oranges.

This isn’t a debate about “black homicide victims”, it’s about a law enforcement system (not just police) that is under scrutiny for failing to regard human life the same way for people of color as it does for white people.

That doesn’t mean every person of color who dies has to be unjustified, or at the hands of law enforcement, or even at the hands of a white person. It just means that if there is evidence of a system that unfairly victimizes people of color, people dying as a result of that system adds fuel to the fire. Incarceration, brutality and harassment is one thing, but when people die, you can’t take that back. You can’t apologize.

It’s ok to support the point I made above AND have regard for the lives of everyone else on the planet. It’s OK to support the point I made above and believe that repairing inner city communities still needs to happen. It’s even OK to support the point I made above and disagree with every other word that has come out my my keyboard on this site ever.

But when you disagree with that point, and pick it apart, it makes you look like a hypocrite when you choose the next moment to bash someone on here for being a liberal sissy thumb suc-k-er for having their own opinion and believing in something. Freedom of opinion goes both ways.

Regard for human life should too.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Ian

Before you dissect my point with in-line commentary and try to somehow prove it wrong, imagine for a second that I might be right. Imagine that simply saying, “you’re right, this is complex” might be a massive step forward for the way ideas are shared on this site. Imagine that not trying to argue this point might be ok.

The point has been made over and over: You’re comparing apples to oranges.

This isn’t a debate about “black homicide victims”, it’s about a law enforcement system (not just police) that is under scrutiny for failing to regard human life the same way for people of color as it does for white people.

That doesn’t mean every person of color who dies has to be unjustified, or at the hands of law enforcement, or even at the hands of a white person. It just means that if there is evidence of a system that unfairly victimizes people of color, people dying as a result of that system adds fuel to the fire. Incarceration, brutality and harassment is one thing, but when people die, you can’t take that back. You can’t apologize.

It’s ok to support the point I made above AND have regard for the lives of everyone else on the planet. It’s OK to support the point I made above and believe that repairing inner city communities still needs to happen. It’s even OK to support the point I made above and disagree with every other word that has come out my my keyboard on this site ever.

But when you disagree with that point, and pick it apart, it makes you look like a hypocrite when you choose the next moment to bash someone on here for being a liberal sissy thumb suc-k-er for having their own opinion and believing in something. Freedom of opinion goes both ways.

Regard for human life should too.
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I don't think Jim disagrees with you. I believe he actually invited you to have the conversation you desire. He asked you "based on what"?

He gave evidence to support his belief. It's your turn to give evidence to support your belief.