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Old 08-10-2020, 07:42 AM   #1
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Only plan that’s always on Trump’s mind is ‘how can I get mine?’
There’s no healthcare plan.
There’s no economic recovery plan.
There’s no nat’l pandemic mitigation plan.
There’s no safe back to school plan.
There’s no nat’l security plan.
There’s no racial injustice plan.
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As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.

Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.

Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.

Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She has said that she would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She has said that she would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.

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Old 08-10-2020, 08:07 AM   #2
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As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.

Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.

Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.

Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.


As written. Anything thing else... you dont know what your talking about... question are Trumps actions supported by your originalist view. Of as written ?
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:25 AM   #3
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As written. Anything thing else... you dont know what your talking about... question are Trumps actions supported by your originalist view. Of as written ?
I know what I am talking about. You don't know what I am talking about. We still have enough of "as written" to stop unconstitutional actions by Trump. If we get a thoroughly Progressive Supreme Court, along with its legislative and executive Progressive partners, there will be nothing left to stop "as written" unconstitutional actions.
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Old 08-10-2020, 09:54 AM   #4
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I know what I am talking about. You don't know what I am talking about.

I have no illusions who thinks their the smartest guy here ..
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:12 AM   #5
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As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.

Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.

Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.

Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.
Forget about the legislative branch, people "want leaders who get things done," reads better in the original Italian or German or Russian. If the liberal tradition of representative government and the rule of law stands for anything, it stands against this.

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Old 08-10-2020, 08:39 AM   #6
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Forget about the legislative branch, people "want leaders who get things done," reads better in the original Italian or German or Russian. If the liberal tradition of representative government and the rule of law stands for anything, it stands against this.
So you don't want leaders who get things done, but you blame Trump for not getting things done. Seems to be a contradiction there.
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:56 AM   #7
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So you don't want leaders who get things done, but you blame Trump for not getting things done. Seems to be a contradiction there.
Nearly 10,000 Americans have died in the last 9 days

Coronavirus Deaths in the U.S.

August 1, 2020: 153,314

August 10, 2020: 162,938

Tweety has been golfing

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Old 08-10-2020, 09:00 AM   #8
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Nearly 10,000 Americans have died in the last 9 days

Coronavirus Deaths in the U.S.

August 1, 2020: 153,314

August 10, 2020: 162,938

Tweety has been golfing
Among other things, he has been golfing. He shouldn't play golf? Do you want him to be the autocrat you seem to be saying you don't want, but merely that he is responsible for everything. Didn't find that responsibility in the Constitution as written, but could very well be interpreted as so by a Progressive Judge.
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