Vote Hard

[The Dad Fisherman]

How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

I know all about it, I'm just putting out a scenario that could lead to it happening somewhere else. With less scrupulous people.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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like that's an exact science.

[Pete F.]

Trump this morning why he won’t fund US Postal Service. “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots ... But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1293896544668782592

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Registered mail gets special, secure, treatment. I've had registered mail to me get lost and never found. Some found later after much searching and tracking.

I have a mail order business as a side source of income for many years. I've had to accept the fact that a small percentage of mail, to and from, would get lost, much would arrive at various times from late to on time. Sending anything by US mail is not an automatically sure thing. Courier services are far more reliable.

Truth - Same - I send stuff Registered all over, for years, costs 15-30 depending on location, gets locked each stop in special bins, signed in signed out. Still lose around 5% of packages.

Originally Posted by wdmso

heres a question for the mail in voter fraud crowd or those who think the post office cant handle it..

Where do you think mail in ballots are sent? To be lost

heres My understanding they get sent to your local election boards . In the town where you live .and are counted my the same people who would cont the vote if you voted in person

Not some centralize mail in vote collection point ?
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True - I have met these local people on elections boards and work for them. Nice folk, frequently retired, often far better at driving a light machinery than a mouse.

Originally Posted by PaulS

Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

So does heroin and illegal firearms, yet growth is exploding in both

Originally Posted by spence

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.

Likely they would have needed some extra funding, that's exactly the opposite of denying funding with the express purpose of harming people's ability vote safely in a pandemic.

Next we're going to see Trump invite Chinese and Russian observers.