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08-11-2020, 03:45 PM
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Location: Cape Cod
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Did they not stop com fishin in the ditch because of poaching?
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08-12-2020, 02:25 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Should not be a pound quota...make it a certain time frame for commercial then whether its met or not shut it down! How difficult is that?
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-12-2020, 04:10 PM
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Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Should not be a pound quota...make it a certain time frame for commercial then whether its met or not shut it down! How difficult is that?
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Ummmm,,, probably wouldn’t happen but that scenario could exceed the rocket scientist’s estimated # to maintain the resource ...
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08-12-2020, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy
Ummmm,,, probably wouldn’t happen but that scenario could exceed the rocket scientist’s estimated # to maintain the resource ...
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Ray used to teach people how to use Autocad.
He’s pretty much a rocket scientist.
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08-12-2020, 07:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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Just recently got my boat in the water, have not sold a fish this year yet. I may or may not. Busy running charters on a friends boat.
But, just because you have a numbered quota does not mean you have to fill it. Leave it 2 days a week, if it gets filled, fine, if not fine. Just reference the last 2 years.....
I am not sure what the current boat price is but I know 3-4 weeks ago it was only $1 a pound. I am guessing allot of people don't fish when it is not worth the effort. And the whole covid19 thing has messed with the demand and price of many species.
Why go to 4 days and then 7 to get more fish on the market when the demand and price is low mainly because of the current state of restaurant volume.....seems it would be a waste of fish. Again, not just a bass issue, the tuna market is going thru the same issue this year.
I never understood why you let the comm harvest the breeders and let everyone else only catch a slot. Why not have everyone, recs and comms fish the same slot and leave the breeders alone. I think every one cooking and eating bass would rather a filet from a 30" fish that a 50" fish.
Many people say take the price off the fishes head....as in no comm harvest. But that is only the tip of it. That price includes tackle shops, plug builders, charter boats, sandwich shops and hotels for people who travel here to fish....the list goes on. So I guess the only answer is no fishing period for anyone. But really, it would never happen, what fun would that be....the golf course would be too crowded.
Life is very short, go fishing (responsibly), have fun and laugh once a while.
Last edited by beamie; 08-12-2020 at 08:54 PM..
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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08-13-2020, 07:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamie
Just recently got my boat in the water, have not sold a fish this year yet. I may or may not. Busy running charters on a friends boat.
But, just because you have a numbered quota does not mean you have to fill it. Leave it 2 days a week, if it gets filled, fine, if not fine. Just reference the last 2 years.....
I am not sure what the current boat price is but I know 3-4 weeks ago it was only $1 a pound. I am guessing allot of people don't fish when it is not worth the effort. And the whole covid19 thing has messed with the demand and price of many species.
Why go to 4 days and then 7 to get more fish on the market when the demand and price is low mainly because of the current state of restaurant volume.....seems it would be a waste of fish. Again, not just a bass issue, the tuna market is going thru the same issue this year.
I never understood why you let the comm harvest the breeders and let everyone else only catch a slot. Why not have everyone, recs and comms fish the same slot and leave the breeders alone. I think every one cooking and eating bass would rather a filet from a 30" fish that a 50" fish.
Many people say take the price off the fishes head....as in no comm harvest. But that is only the tip of it. That price includes tackle shops, plug builders, charter boats, sandwich shops and hotels for people who travel here to fish....the list goes on. So I guess the only answer is no fishing period for anyone. But really, it would never happen, what fun would that be....the golf course would be too crowded.
Life is very short, go fishing (responsibly), have fun and laugh once a while.
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You are making too much sense.. I have been saying this for years, brought it up at meetings until I hurled... falls on dead ears..small fish are better eating, there is less waste, and command a better price, they also have not run the gauntlet of life, a 20 lb plus fish is safe from most predators except man..
Quotas should be used to regulate, not just to fill pockets of a few.
Someone needs to come up with a viable way to record recreational catches, and dead loss, there is too much speculation, not nearly enough science...fishing logs/ reports would be a good start so would a tag system, just like Texas has with red fish..there are
Alot of fish up my way but few fisherman, I suspect, opening the quota to 7 days will smoke out a few that haven't bothered because it's hard to get the fish to a buyer ..but with the option of being open 24/7.. they will ice their catch, then deliver the next day after work..
It all needs to be examined, maybe a no kill moratorium needs to be implemented..maybe no fishing, artificial bait only.. it all needs to be explored, but until EVERYONE sits down like grown men and women and discuss this logically..well..it ain't getting any better.
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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08-13-2020, 07:22 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
It all needs to be examined, maybe a no kill moratorium needs to be implemented..maybe no fishing, artificial bait only.. it all needs to be explored, but until EVERYONE sits down like grown men and women and discuss this logically..well..it ain't getting any better.
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Yep. Until then is Deck chairs / Titanic
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08-13-2020, 08:35 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
You are making too much sense.. I have been saying this for years, brought it up at meetings until I hurled... falls on dead ears..small fish are better eating, there is less waste, and command a better price, they also have not run the gauntlet of life, a 20 lb plus fish is safe from most predators except man..
Quotas should be used to regulate, not just to fill pockets of a few.
Someone needs to come up with a viable way to record recreational catches, and dead loss, there is too much speculation, not nearly enough science...fishing logs/ reports would be a good start so would a tag system, just like Texas has with red fish..there are
Alot of fish up my way but few fisherman, I suspect, opening the quota to 7 days will smoke out a few that haven't bothered because it's hard to get the fish to a buyer ..but with the option of being open 24/7.. they will ice their catch, then deliver the next day after work..
It all needs to be examined, maybe a no kill moratorium needs to be implemented..maybe no fishing, artificial bait only.. it all needs to be explored, but until EVERYONE sits down like grown men and women and discuss this logically..well..it ain't getting any better.
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Joe, I have written a couple of articles on the Tarpon/Snook fishery and how it got shutdown and is now a world class fishery. I think that the time has come for the commercial guys to target another species, not that that would help.
I am NOT saying the comms are at fault but if you take a price off the fishes head and declare a moratorium that includes everywhere and everyone, maybe we save them again.
At 73, I don't have a lot of years left to fish but I do have heirs and would hope there would be a fishery for them.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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