No lockdown, no masks, nNo hysteria... NO PROBLEM: Sweden didn't go into a lockdown a

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What I do know is the USA has the highest number of infections and deaths in the world and the CDC, changing its Covid-19 testing guidelines, no longer recommends testing for most people without symptoms, even if they've been in close contact with someone known to have the virus. Many doctors are puzzled by the agency's change.

Tweety: spends 6 months explaining he wants less covid testing so that his numbers look better.

CDC: suddenly changes guidelines to cut back on testing without explanation.

Media: "we have no info about why the CDC would do such a perplexing thing, it is an unknowable mystery".

So you shift to your usual change the subject as a means to insert another supposed black mark for Trump. It becomes a futile endeavor to respond to your posts, since the responses just become spring boards for some new attack point for you.

That's a good strategy in war, but a killer of rational conversation.

Very, very often, if we wait a few days, we find that what seemed like a nefarious action, is actually the opposite. Let's wait and see. There is already this response in the Washington Times: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-not-argue-an/

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I didn't say they had the same results, I said the "same" result you noted--"And many doctors could say the same in Vermont"

Would you like to compare New York's stats to Sweden. Comparing stats might tell a story. If the people of Sweden are happier with their results than we are, that might tell a story.

I honestly don't know. Do you?

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What I do know is the USA has the highest number of infections and deaths in the world and the CDC, changing its Covid-19 testing guidelines, no longer recommends testing for most people without symptoms, even if they've been in close contact with someone known to have the virus. Many doctors are puzzled by the agency's change.

Tweety: spends 6 months explaining he wants less covid testing so that his numbers look better.

CDC: suddenly changes guidelines to cut back on testing without explanation.

Media: "we have no info about why the CDC would do such a perplexing thing, it is an unknowable mystery".

Originally Posted by detbuch

So you shift to your usual change the subject as a means to insert another supposed black mark for Trump.
Who changed the subject? "Would you like to compare New York's stats to Sweden."
It becomes a futile endeavor to respond to your posts, since the responses just become spring boards for some new attack point for you.

That's a good strategy in war, but a killer of rational conversation.

Very, very often, if we wait a few days, we find that what seemed like a nefarious action, is actually the opposite. Let's wait and see. There is already this response in the Washington Times: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-not-argue-an/

That's not a response, just confusing baloney without evidence.

Alison Galvani
Director of the Center for Infectious Disease Modeling and Analysis (CIDMA), Burnett and Stender Families' Professor of Epidemiology, Yale University
The CDC just revised their testing guidance to exclude people without symptoms. Our work on the ‘silent’ spread underscores the importance of testing people who have been exposed to #COVID-19 regardless of symptoms. This change in policy will kill.

Meanwhile in places where it is not just the flu, that actually shut down and don't claim they have done a great job while having the worst results in the world.

New covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 52
France: 16
Japan: 15
Canada: 7
UK: 16
Germany: 9

United States: 1,290

Population of countries above: 426 million
Population of United States: 328 million

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Who changed the subject? "Would you like to compare New York's stats to Sweden."

The thread was about an article re Sweden's lack of lockdown. You made some kind of possible comparison to that article's message to Vermont. I figured if Vermont's lockdown and stats was supposed to be relevant to the Sweden article, then so would NY's lockdown and stats--all notions supposedly having some significance to what was said in the article. You skipped over the NY vs Sweden relevance and jumped to the CDC change in testing policy. Seemed like a complete change of subject to me.

That's not a response, just confusing baloney without evidence.

The Washington Times article was indeed a response.
I wasn't confused by it. There is no evidence that the CDC new policy is supposed to be some order by Trump to make statistics look better.
That's conjecture. It also mentions that it is left to the states to continue testing as they wish. Which really is more in line with federalism than some edict from the high and mighty federal government.


New covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 52
France: 16
Japan: 15
Canada: 7
UK: 16
Germany: 9

United States: 1,290

Population of countries above: 426 million
Population of United States: 328 million

Sweden had one new death.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sweden had one new death.

Hey remember when Trump said in Tulsa that he wanted to decrease COVID-19 testing and Trump's critics said he definitely means it so this needs to be investigated immediately and Trump and you said no I was joking so media ignored it and now it turns out he was of course totally serious?
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